An Open Letter To Anyone Who Thought The End Of Lost Was Awesome

25 May

Let’s just start from a position of mutual respect, because I mean it when I say that I don’t want any trouble. I’m not here to pick a fight, and I’m not here to assess your intelligence, and I don’t want to call anyone names, though it’s possible that before I’m finished here, I will do all of those things.

But only if you’re asking for it. If you are simply a person who enjoyed Lost right up to Hurley’s Church Jamboree, then I am nothing but happy for you. I am in fact, jealous of you. I wish with all my heart that I felt right now, about Lost, the way you feel. Please, treasure your happiness and joy and satisfaction – I have no interest in taking it away from you.

And by the same token, when I tell you that I, and millions of others, feel enraged and betrayed by the ending, that we are utterly stunned by the forest of unanswered questions, that we expected most if not all of the bizzaro plotlines to converge in a more direct and satisfying way, let’s just agree to disagree.

All I need you to do, is refrain from trying to tell us that we are stupid, or that we don’t “get it.” See, that’s false and it’s insulting, and that’s how problems start.

We all watched the same show, and we all watched the end. If you liked it – or even loved it – I don’t think you’re stupid. I think your expectations were different from mine, that’s all. By all means, keep your dignity, and I will keep mine.

You can even think of it as living together so we don’t die alone, if that rings your bell.

No, if that’s all right with you, then this letter is over. Namaste. Rock on, fellow human being. Please, take nothing past this point personally, because you and I can live in peace, my friend.

But you’re really not who I want to talk to right now. This next part of the letter is for a different kind of Person Who Liked The End Of Lost.

Right now I want to talk to every one of you posturing pseudo-intellectuals, who’s been blowing up the internet with your insipid insistence that the show actually did answer a satisfying number of questions, that the ending really was full of meaning and depth, that they really delivered the goods they’ve promised us for six years.

Those of us who didn’t like it, just didn’t get it, you’ve all been blathering. Because we’re stupid. Because we’re shallow. Because the show was only for super geniuses, like you.

I’ll tell you what, I’m not even going to debate the answers to the questions. I’ll bet there are a few things that I missed, no doubt. And I understand that I can extrapolate the answers to a lot of questions, and fill in the blanks for myself. Yes, I could have done that without watching the end, and you know what?

I could have done it ten times better. There. I’ve said it.

Don’t believe me? Give me ten million dollars and an island, let’s find out. Trust me, I’m not claiming to be a superwriter here, just pointing out the bar is very, very low right now.

You know that they didn’t have the WHOLE story together from the beginning, right? You know, for instance, that Mr. Eko was meant to be the anti-Locke. That they simply failed to hammer down his contract, and he split. So tell me, a major character like that and they just dispose of him for practical reasons – how does that fit in with the “all of this happened for a reason” theme?

That’s why the kids were disappearing, too. Because by season two, they’d look a lot older, and the plot was only what, a couple of months at that point? So they had to use a plot device, get the kids out of here. Yes, everything happened for a reason, all right. Just not very good reasons. Reasons unrelated to the story.

Your idea of answers is far different from mine. If you showed up in my bathroom at three am, and I said, what the hell are you doing here, you’d say, “I’m an accountant.” And then you’d be bewildered that I was expecting a better answer than that.

What’s this obsession with answers, that’s so shallow, you’d say, and then you’d be picking your teeth out of my sink.

What the hell was the island? You’d think they could have told us that, an island that moves, what is it, why the time travel?

Here’s you: “You’re so dim! The island symbolized the struggle of good vs. evil!”

But that’s not what I asked. The show started off about a literal plane crash, on a literal island that you could get to in a submarine or a boat or a plane, from our literal world.

I know what it symbolized, you arrogant ass. You can put your sock puppets down.

Because all along when they were throwing crazy plotline after crazy plotline at us, we kept asking the producers in letters and interviews and online, are you guys totally full of crap, and just throwing things at us, or do you know what you’re doing with all this? Are you going to hook all this together?

Don’t worry, the producers said, we know exactly what we’re doing. All will be revealed.

So, for instance, the time jumping was explained as a mysterious wheel that was stuck. When they said, all would be revealed, I expected them to eventually reveal what was up with the wheel. Now, eventually Widmore “explained” the wheel as, wait for it..

A wheel. A wheel they brought along, that they were going to “hook up” to the “energy pocket.”

Listen, if that counts as an answer to you, chief, that’s fine with me, but trust me. It doesn’t make you smart.

Okay, how about the numbers? Why the numbers? What was up with the numbers?

Yes, I know. I saw them written on the cave wall. If writing the numbers on the cave wall and having Locke Monster tell you with a twinkle in his eye that every character has a number, if that counts as an explanation to you, then I think maybe it’s time I told you, babies don’t come from storks.

Why would the numbers have to be entered every 108 minutes into a computer? Why, smart guy? Did you just say because the numbers add up to 108?

Seriously, I am not even going to spend sixty seconds looking up the numbers and checking, since the producers couldn’t be bothered to write their show, but would that really count as an answer to you?

Did Jacob manipulate the lottery, so the numbers would bring in Hurley? Or did the numbers become important because Hurley was going to replace Jacob, and he won the lottery with them?

Here’s you: “Not everything has to be spelled out, man. The pieces are all right there, just put them together and stop asking to be spoon fed. It’s spiritual, man.”

But see, when the producers said, “all will be revealed,” that’s what I took it to mean. Not, we’ll leave the existing pieces lying around the set, and you can use your imagination to put them together and form your own answers, because it’ll be spiritual. This isn’t a book of Mad Libs. This was the most convoluted plot in television history, and they said they’d tie it all up.

There’s no denying, they didn’t tie it all up.

I’ve seen a lot of you claiming to know all the answers, but also claiming to be somehow above explaining it to lesser minds. The Emperor sure has a nice outfit on, doesn’t he, genius? Are you 100% positive, that the joke is on us, and not you?

Jacob uses magic ashes to explain to everyone why he brought them here, after he’s dead? Seriously, you’re all right with that, and I’m the simpleton?

How ‘bout Jacob walks on up the beach on day one, or even day two, says, “Good news and bad news, everyone. Let’s have a talk.” You see how we wouldn’t need the Magic Commune With The Dead Ashes Plot Device, right out of the clear blue sky, that way?

My favorite is when I’m called a “so-called” fan. Because, now that I’m saying the ending sucked, it’s like the Indians are on a losing streak and I jumped ship. But this isn’t a baseball team, all right? When a show starts sucking, and you pretend to still like it, that’s not admirable. That’s you, being a posturing, gullible fool.

See, if I had really missed the point, and the point was really right there, then someone around me would be explaining it to me by now. The vast majority of my friends and associates have either never seen the show – and frankly, I envy them – or they are every bit as livid as I am.

You seem to believe, Mr. The End Of Lost Was Awesome, that we all missed it, and you got it. That you’re that much smarter than everyone I know.

Basing your entire assessment of your intellect on your television watching skills. You’re awesome at watching television. Go ahead and look in the mirror and say that a few times, see if you puke, cause I just did, a little bit. In my mouth, just typing that.

I’ll tell you what I expected. I expected them to not just provide an ending to the main story, but to provide an explanation for all the baffling things that happened. All of them. If they had done that, it would have been without question or hyperbole, the single greatest work of fiction ever produced, including all the works of Shakespeare and John Steinbeck and Charles Dickens combined.

Here’s you: “There’s no way they could have done that. It would have been impossible.”

Maybe so, that’s why we were asking, every time they introduced a new wacky plotline or a new wacky character, that’s why we were saying, dudes, are you positive you got this? You’re sure you can deliver a package this size? Cause you’re writing a pretty tall order here.

We got it, they said, with their John Locke twinkle. Don’t even worry. All will be revealed.

Then the sideways timelines showed up. I’ll tell you what I was thinking, because I’m so stupid. I was thinking, in physics, they say that you can’t change the past. That if you were to go back in time and try, you’d end up creating a new timeline that runs parallel to it.

But that’s just because I’m a slobbering monkey man who doesn’t recognize a decent ending when I see it. My consultation of quantum physics was all because I refuse to use my brain when I’m watching an interesting show, that’s all that is, right?

So anyway, in my sub-moronic hypothesis, I was thinking, the parallel timeline characters would then end up back on the parallel island, and that they’d end up in the parallel past as well, and that they’d set off a parallel nuclear bomb, and that the two nuclear explosions in parallel universes would be the source of the energy pocket.

Two nuclear explosions, causing each other, negating each other. And that the wheel was going to be half in one universe, and half in the other.

And I thought, the Dharma Initiative, being all about harmony, was created to maintain some kind of balance, keeping the two universes from crashing into each other and destroying each other. And that they were caught in an infinite loop, the one nuclear explosion creating the one timeline, the other nuclear explosion creating the other.

The struggle between Jacob and his brother would be that each was a representative of a universe, that each wanted his own universe to survive the struggle. That neither was good nor evil, just both of them selfish, and imbued with power somehow by the energy pocket.

Yes, but you’re the genius and I’m a slack-jawed manchild, with drool on my shirt, because a smarter explanation is, there’s a big, literal cork in a hole in a smoke monster cave factory, and the sideways timeline is a Pantheistic Pizza Party Afterlife Paradise Land, that all the characters created to be happy together in. That the writers killed half a season, Planning The Pizza Party, instead of answering questions that you just told me, they’d never have time to answer.

God, I wish that I was as smart as you.

Now, you might want me to come over to your blog and read what you think happened, but there’s a good reason I’m not going to do that. Several, actually.

The main reason is, the producers of Lost assured me all this time that they would tie all this up. They said, don’t worry, we know what we’re doing. They didn’t say anything about you.

They didn’t say, don’t worry, we’ll wrap it up in such a way that you need to have a stoner who reads too much Ayn Rand explain it to you on his blog. If you write something that takes six years, and then at the end, a total stranger has to explain it to millions of people, then guess what? You wrote it poorly.

The other reason is, I’m pretty comfortable with my intelligence. I’m not the smartest guy in the world, no doubt, but I’m pretty sure I’m not an idiot. And I have one hundred percent confidence in the intelligence levels of my friends. If there’s something I’m missing, one of my guys or one of my gals would have broken me down by now. Happens all the time.

But mostly it’s because you guys who are claiming that the ending was satisfying – you’re not fooling anyone. You’re a bunch of deluded Hot Pocket Munchers, and if Lost was speaking to you in a way that my friends and I couldn’t understand, then it was in the same way Spongebob Squarepants speaks to children.

In other words, no thank you. I’ll be staying out of your basement, freak.

Here’s the truth, they lied to us. They were even laughing about it, on the wind-up special, laughing about knowing where it was going and pulling plotlines out of their butts to kill the time. Like driving around town for six years, taking crazy turns down alleys and sidestreets and through parking garages.

You sure you know where you’re going?

Then six years later, they get on the interstate, and say, “See, told you I know where we were going. Cleveland.”

Not very impressive, even if you think Cleveland rocks.

Hey, I kind of like the idea of a Hurley Afterlife Party, but only as an epilogue.

The idea that HALF OF THIS SEASON was a Hurley Afterlife Party Planning Meeting, oh my god. Where’s Patrick Duffy when you need him, in a towel?

Listen to me. You did not understand the show any better than I did. We both understood it. You were simply satisfied with what little you received, and you chose to stay on board. That part I understand, and even applaud.

But next, you chose to judge the rest of us, for wanting what we expected. You claimed, you actually got what WE expected, even though you clearly didn’t, and you did it to make yourself look spiritual and wise.

If I look at a pile of crap, and say that I don’t like it, that doesn’t mean I don’t understand it. I understand the pile of crap just fine. I just don’t like piles of crap.

You do, that’s fine, and you prefer to call them masterpieces. Awesome. Grab a spoon, genius.

But you’re not fooling anyone. To the rest of us, you look like a little kid, pretending to read a book, holding it upside down. It would be cute if you weren’t spewing venom all over the place about how none of the adults around you can read.

Instead it’s simply sad. I feel sorry for you. On behalf of myself, and so many of my friends who have been fans of this show since the beginning, I wanted to tell you that. You’re not fooling anyone. Your behavior is sickening, your reasoning is weak, and we don’t want you to explain to us what it’s like to live in your world, or to pretend to.

Everyone this is an open letter, but please feel free to forward this to anyone you think might need it.

For my part, that’s the hairball I needed to cough up. My apologies once again, if you liked the show and you aren’t walking around being a dick about it.

As for the writers and producers, listen, good one guys. I appreciate a good practical joke, I understand you made a stack of cash, and we’re definitely cool, you and I.

You hit us with the old Kansas City Shuffle, and it was no one’s fault but ours.

Namaste, you sons of bitches. Namaste.

The Curse of Future Tom

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372 responses to “An Open Letter To Anyone Who Thought The End Of Lost Was Awesome

  1. blerm

    May 25, 2010 at 3:17 am

    nice theories. they seem probable.

    But you are too bitter. IT’S JUST a TV show. You can let go now.

    Personally, Im ok with the ending. I probably would have picked apart any scientific explanation anyways. I can’t argue with this ending because it’s anti-scientific.

    Just sit back and enjoy the fiction

    • thomaschalfant

      May 25, 2010 at 3:31 am

      Well of course I can let it go now. It’s just a blog. Relax.

      • JohnMoonlord

        May 28, 2010 at 12:46 pm

        A very heartfelt blog, at that.

        I’m of the “it was awesome” category, but just like you, I hate it when people who think differently than me go all patronizing and name-calling. Believe me, they are assholes like that on both sides and I’ve been dealing with the “haters” version myself lately.

        I get your frustration and I totally sympatize to it. I just hope that in time, you might come to at least like it (hey, it happened before: my father vs Star Wars comes into mind…)

        But in any case, I hope this venting blog did you good, like you seem to imply here. 😉

        And eventhough I loved it, having more staight or at least more tangible answers to all those questions would’ve been great, I agree to that. Not TOO much though (I’m thinking of the midichlorians explanation for the Force in Star Wars, for example). That was personally my main fear: ruining the mythology of the island with overexplanation. Obviously, it didn’t went there. 😉

        No, man, it really sucks that you hated the ending that much: you obviously really cared about the series and anyone with our level of dedication deserves a wonderful ending.

        Hope if you ever come to watch another series with that level of interest that this time around, the ending will work marvelously for you. 🙂

      • thomaschalfant

        May 28, 2010 at 1:50 pm

        Someone else mentioned Star Wars and I was thinking exactly that – about the midichlorians.

        That’s quite an arsenal of emoticons you’ve brought with you. Yes, the venting did me a world of good, and as someone else pointed out, it did the blog a world of good, too. I definitely hear you – they could have over-explained it, too.

        But no, I feel exactly like I do once I’ve been sick and I’m brushing my teeth – a whole lot better. It also really is a great thing that this has turned into a place where people who disagree and aren’t interested in fighting, don’t have to.

        Time heals all wounds – so maybe you’re right about that part, too – thank you for commenting.

      • Sandie

        May 28, 2010 at 2:07 pm

        Loved your blog. I am older than most fans and I remember the Patrick Duffy in a towel episode of Dallas. Honestly, as the final credits rolled THAT Dallas episode was the first thought that entered my mind. While parts of the finale were awesome, I – like so many – am still thinking WTF???!!!

      • thomaschalfant

        May 28, 2010 at 4:31 pm

        There was also the Bob Newhart one, where he woke up and he was in bed with the wife from the last Newhart show, going man, I just had a crazy dream. Loved that one – like a spoof on Patrick Duffy.

    • JoeBlow

      May 28, 2010 at 9:28 pm

      I enjoyed the rant even as a person who enjoyed the show for what it was – a show. I’m not claiming intelligence above you I am just wondering if you remember the episode that Hurley brought Jack up to the light tower with all the names and numbers on the dial that when turned showed where the characters lived in the mirror. It was pretty apparent by the end of the show that at this point and time the Island was all about getting those 6 candidates to the island – 4 8 15 16 23 42 on each respective number of the dial. If that’s not the answer then I don’t know what else could have been. Those numbers being everywhere was to try and make it possible for those 6 to be above the rest. And if you’re trying to figure out why they chose those 6 numbers, then I think you are demanding a little too much because if it was those 6 or 12 34 13 25 98 and 74 – its just a random selection of numbers that wasn’t the important part – what made them important was that they had reyes, kwon, etc. written next to them.

      • thomaschalfant

        May 28, 2010 at 10:53 pm

        You are right that it would be weird to demand to know why the specific numbers, but no, I don’t think the lighthouse explains why they were Hurley’s lottery numbers, why they were etched on the hatch, why they needed entered into the computer, why the radio tower was broadcasting them. I truly expected a more specific answer, as I said, but as I also said, I’m not opening a debate on the subject. If that’s good enough for you, great, but no, it’s not good enough for me.

        Because if it was really about getting the six people there, then maybe their names would be more powerful. It felt like a false mystery, if that was the answer.

        Again, it’s all about expectations. I thought I was watching a different show, definitely

  2. Tracy

    May 25, 2010 at 3:37 am

    you said it well!

    • Steve

      May 28, 2010 at 2:50 am

      Loved your letter! Joined your page too. You are, in my opinion not bitter…just pissed off, as are millions. I think it’s split about 50-50. I call it this way. There are emoters…and there are thinkers. Emoters feel…thinkers analyze. No attack on the emoters/feelers, ’cause it take both to make the world go around…BUT…to the thinkers, we want answers…we still love the characters, but dammit…DON’T LEAD US ON like we’re dumb sheep…duping us with each additional episode to hold ratings up.. It’s like abuse to thinkers. We see through the writer’s desparation to keep the ABC ratings high for 6 years. True story… in 2004 I saw the hype and promos aboute LOST and told my family…They can’t make a TV series about a bunch of people stranded on an island and continue to make it interesting. I knew there would be flashbacks to fill in the characters’ stories, but my gut was right all along. The writers threw everything, and I mean everything…time travel, special powers, transporting, etc. at their loyal viewers. The emoters all cried at the finale…because they really didn’t care about the millions of unanswered questions… We got pissed! And, I think rightly so. Here’s my new FB page you’re all invited to join.!/pages/I-Hated-The-Bogus-Ending-Of-LOST-And-Want-A-6-Year-REFUND-Of-Time-Wasted/124349837588288?ref=mf

      • Nick B

        May 28, 2010 at 3:06 am

        Even though the ending annoyed me, I wouldn’t say I wasted 6 years because of it. It was a great journey, and the journey does matter… its just that the destination matters too. I really enjoyed most of what Lost has done… except for the end.

      • thomaschalfant

        May 28, 2010 at 3:22 am

        Well said, man – the journey definitely matters, and I really do miss it.

  3. Tracy

    May 25, 2010 at 3:40 am

    and took the words right out of my mouth…every single one.
    the writers were in it for the $, and i feel suckered…even more so when i shell out 200 bucks for the boxed set in August…

    • thomaschalfant

      May 25, 2010 at 3:52 am

      Yes, I was definitely speaking right from the heart, sister. But seriously, I think I might skip the box set. Saw you posted the link on the Lost page too – best compliment you can throw out there, so thanks!

      It’s like when someone dies, I keep having dreams that the series finale was a big, complicated mistake and they’re going to show me the real one pretty soon.

      • Whitney

        May 27, 2010 at 12:49 am

        Your ending for the show was 1000 times better then that cop-out crap the producers came up with!!! Man, I just wanted some good action…a good ending that wrapped up all the mystery that had piled up for 6 years, not some Barney-Babybop feel good moment!! I could watch Lifetime for that crap!!!

      • thomaschalfant

        May 27, 2010 at 12:51 am

        Thank you! I’ll bet I could really hash that out in detail too, if they’d paid me a tenth of what they paid these other guys. Yes, I could definitely do without contractually obligated musical montages for each character, for sure.

    • Trish

      May 28, 2010 at 2:51 am

      why spend 200 bucks on the box set if you were suckered and hate it? Go out for dinner, movie and drinks. I’m sure you will be happier with a night out than something you hate.

  4. Ken Howell

    May 25, 2010 at 4:09 am

    I didn’t totally hate the finale, but your ending is better. It actually sounds like the plot of Fringe, which is the same producer’s attempt to think the shit through before the cameras actually start rolling.

    • thomaschalfant

      May 25, 2010 at 4:18 am

      See, I keep getting told to watch Fringe, but after this one, man, I don’t know..

      Like I said, though, hats off if you dug the show or even if you didn’t hate it.

      • Nick B

        May 27, 2010 at 3:03 am

        Nicely put up there. I would have gone a different way than you, but still with some sort of relation to the quantum effects. Fringe is only okay. The overall plot is somewhat interesting, but a lot of the time its been “What’s the most disgusting effect of some pseudoscientific phenomena we can do this week?” It’s a mix of “serialized” and “wrap-it-up-in-an-episode” type of show. I watch it when I’m bored.

      • thomaschalfant

        May 27, 2010 at 3:09 am

        Yeah, you know, practically any way toward explaining would be fine with me. You bring up a time travel plotline, and then later tell me I’m an idiot for wanting it wrapped up – strange bunch of birds out there.

        Fringe. I keep getting told Fringe is X-Files meets Lost. Both really blew their endings, so I’m not sure I want to go there, but a LOT of people I respect keep telling me to. And I’m still not mad at Abrams, since I think he handed this show off pretty quick, and since I was an absolute swooning sucker for his Star Trek movie, and even Cloverfield.

        But it’s good to know maybe I can watch Fringe without committing like I did to this show. I appreciate your commenting.

      • Robert

        May 28, 2010 at 12:11 am

        Not that I’m sour or holding a grudge, but I’ve been boycotting anything associated with the producers since they promised a long long time ago to start answering questions. So, I to have friends telling me I should watch Fringe, but I said I’m at least not going to watch until the end of Lost. Now that I swallowed that piece of shit, I’m not going to watch anything produced by these same cats.

  5. ill QueeN D

    May 25, 2010 at 4:12 am

    I agree with you 100%. I am getting sick of seeing people post that we are “idiots” and “not true fans of Lost” just because we didn’t like the ending. Oh, like you, I too understood the finale, I just didn’t like it. I felt like it was a cop out and was rushed. It was great that everyone found each other, etc. etc. but leaves much to be desired. So kudos to you for saying how you truly feel, in a world where others (no pun intended) are following the masses and claiming to know all the answers that are supposedly slapping us unsatisfied folk right in the face. I will be re-posting this. Thank you.

  6. Darth Sillynous

    May 25, 2010 at 4:23 am

    Ha! Awesome! Well said. I was ok with the ending from a character perspective, but as for narrative, it was junk. Wasted time building up plots that went nowhere and it will drive me insane if I think too long about it. I am sure there are answers within the details that I may have missed. I do plan on watching it all again (probably via box set I admit) with all the knowledge to see how different it really is.

  7. Matt

    May 25, 2010 at 4:28 am

    I felt the same way as you after watching the finale. I was so sick of hearing how stupid I am for expecting everything that happened over the last 6 years to mean something. But I will say this: I watched the finale again, this time “letting go” of the fact that they didn’t end it on my terms. I have to admit that I appreciated it so much more when I had that attitude.

    • thomaschalfant

      May 25, 2010 at 4:28 pm

      Yes, I’m sure I’ll come back to it like a turkey carcass and pick it clean later, cause the stuff that I loved, I really loved. But to me it’s like a really great relationship that ended in incestual adultery – hard for me to go all the way back.

  8. Dad at Home

    May 25, 2010 at 4:46 am

    It was the A-Bomb Brother. When the A-Bomb went off it destroyed the writer’s notes. They were left standing there with 5 seasons of plot lines and no way to connect them. So they said to themselves, “Purgatory!” The fans will think it’s clever that the whole show is actually a way for us to look at death as…oh who gives a shit!

    I was hoping to see Jack and Locke sitting on the beach at the end of the show. Locke looking over and saying, “You know how much I want to kill you right now?” But no. I got an all-inclusive church with a portion of the cast. I got the writers playing the emotion card because they knew I was connected to these characters and wanted to see them happy (I will say the show did do great at crafting memorable characters).

    Shame… Just a damn shame.

    • thomaschalfant

      May 25, 2010 at 4:29 pm

      Thing was, I thought the A bomb was the perfect opportunity to straighten things out.

      • OllieJ

        May 27, 2010 at 1:51 am

        This blog is EXACTLY what I thought the minute the show went off. I tried having a discussion about it with some “friends” (yes, I’m considering getting new ones) about it and they started regurgitating the bullsh*t two-hour special that aired before the finale.
        I’m not sorry, but you can’t spend 6 years building the mystery about the island to suddenly tell me that “it’s always been about the characters.”
        Also, Sayid should’ve been with Nadia at the end. He was willing to kill a man & join the darkside to be with her again. Saying that what they did on the island is the most important thing shouldn’t change that.

  9. Lost&Irate

    May 25, 2010 at 5:05 am

    Just what I wanted after spending 6 years with these characters- for them all to be dead and standing outside the gates of heaven. Good job writers.

    • thomaschalfant

      May 25, 2010 at 4:30 pm

      And then to have an army of folks going, “Oh, man, it was so spiritual, you just don’t get it.” Ick.

  10. Bethany

    May 25, 2010 at 5:06 am

    HAH. I have never seen the show and this is STILL hilarious.

    I’ve decided I’m gonna be like one of those self-righteous vegan converts who smugly recount how many years it’s been since they last ate meat. “I’ve never seen a single episode of Lost,” I’ll say with a smirk.

    Also, I offer my condolences.

    • thomaschalfant

      May 25, 2010 at 5:09 am

      Very kind, Bethany. That’s quite a compliment, you reading through all that without ever watching Lost.

      I’ve never seen American Idol – I love the smug vegan thing!

      It’s definitely a justified smirk, too..

    • marilynluvstom

      May 28, 2010 at 6:29 pm

      Oh good Bethany, you and I can be friends.

  11. Bruce

    May 25, 2010 at 6:22 am

    I gave up on answers after “Across the Sea”. I was in the same state you are in now after that episode because I was really looking forward to getting some answers in that episode. After I had time to cool down, I realised then that the writers weren’t going to answer anything. Heck they even warned us with the “Every question will lead to more questions” line. After that I just decided to enjoy the last two episodes for what they were rather than expect answers and I’m happy to say I did enjoy them. However, I know that the overwhelming emotion of Lost ending will soon be replaced by a maddening urge to still want to know the answers that will last for a long time.

    • thomaschalfant

      May 25, 2010 at 6:53 am

      Yeah, you know, it really is ripe for a spin off or six.

  12. Karla

    May 25, 2010 at 6:26 am

    I must confess that I’ve religiously watched Lost for the past 6 years and hated almost every single episode. I hated that they kept throwing out so many curveballs, twists, and just plain weird crap without a care about explanations or tying it all together. Sure they said they would explain it all, but I never believed it. Not because I’m a super genius with the ability to see the future but because…like you said it was a pretty tall order. That being said, I loved the finale because it totally lived up to my expectations of no answers while giving me the bonus of a sappy, Disney-esque happy ending with a lot of meaning and beauty. Guess that makes me a half and halfer.

    • thomaschalfant

      May 25, 2010 at 6:53 am

      No, I reallly meant it at the beginning – a lot of people are really loving the faith-based theme and that’s plenty for them, and by all means, I’m all for it.

      I do know what you mean about the twists – the whole time I was saying, man, they can only justify this by wrapping this up tightly.

      Anyway, my venom is only directed at those who were already spitting it. I’m not crazy about yogurt, either, but I’ve got no problem with people who like it.

      Thank you for commenting!

  13. Nils

    May 25, 2010 at 6:27 am

    Brilliant letter! It took me a while to sit there and watch them all go into the bright light … WTF? This is it?!?
    Truly spoken, we all got screwed … LET GO !

    • thomaschalfant

      May 25, 2010 at 6:55 am

      Thank you! Got to tell you, I really expected to get yelled at today..

  14. Ben

    May 25, 2010 at 9:10 am

    I liked the ending, but I appriciate the response. I don’t think they owed us an entire, full sack of answers, but you are correct to a degree, few more would of been nice. But to quote Jacob’s Mother, ‘Any answer I give you, will just lead to more questions.’ After ‘Happily Ever After’, I gave up with wanting answers, and gave up with theorising at the start of Season 5. I don’t know, but I admire the balls of your display, the shitstorm you’ll cop from pretencious fucks will be relentless. But admitingly, at least we got here. The middle of Season 2 and the first 6-7 eps of Season 3 were a waste of time and I’ve learned to live with them. Admiting this on the net, I copped a shitstorm of abuse. I think the way you viewed the finale will all come down to your own beliefs. For an atheist, I was suprised I didn’t fly off the handle and declare “FUCKING RELIGION”, then proceed to throwing my T.V out of the second story window in violent protest. I enjoyed it, it’s shame you didn’t, but I’m impressed with your view. If that’s what you wanted from Lost, you have every right to be angry. It’s a hope we can co-exist, and I hope it doesn’t make you abandon this show forever. It was a hell of a ride.
    Namaste, Dude.

    • thomaschalfant

      May 25, 2010 at 12:42 pm

      Yes, I definitely understand being happy with all the questions, but remember the whole season, “THE TIME FOR QUESTIONS HAS ENDED!”

      Then they’re all of the sudden saying, “Oh, man, answers to questions are for squares.”

      But yes indeed, namaste. I truly don’t want any trouble with anyone who just wants to watch the show and like it. It was definitely a hell of a ride.

  15. Pamela

    May 25, 2010 at 12:48 pm

    I have to agree with just about everything written by Tom. You said what I just didn’t have the concentration or focus to say. I was all tangled up in that ball of yarn the writers left out on the floor for the cats to get into. I read somewhere else that they (the writers) had long ago “painted themselves into a corner” that they couldn’t possibly get out of. I do feel a bit cheated. Once upon a time, they did say they were going in a specific direction and that No, it was not purgatory or dead. They lied. *sigh* Oh well…it’s just a show.

    • thomaschalfant

      May 25, 2010 at 4:20 pm

      Well anyone who starts off their comment with the sentence you started your comment off with is okay in my book. Thank you for commenting!

  16. Sarah

    May 25, 2010 at 12:52 pm

    Right on Brotha!!! Lost was about characters for sure, but we can watch any tv show and just focus on the characters, Lost was compelling because of THE ISLAND, and the mystery surrounding it. There were so many new twists and turns in the plot, and I had really hoped they would answer some in the end.. maybe I was too naive to think that. With the talent of the writers, I had hope for something good at the end though. It was just such a cop out, and a horrible way to end it. And in the end, the finale seemed more like a glorified soap opera. Very disappointed.

    • thomaschalfant

      May 25, 2010 at 4:22 pm

      Yes, I don’t see how we go from THE TIME FOR QUESTIONS HAS ENDED to Oh, dude, questions are for squares. Without wrapping it up, a soap opera is exactly what it feels like, complete with evil twins and everything.

  17. stacy

    May 25, 2010 at 1:59 pm

    Very well put.., esp about saying those of us who didn’t like the ending are “stupid” or missing the point. I am not missing the point, nor did I want every answer spoon-fed. Just would’ve been nice to get some more answers…Well done friend..hope you don’t mind , I would like to share your blog with others(hehe “others” ) that feel the same way we do. Well done Thomas.. Well Done!

    • thomaschalfant

      May 25, 2010 at 2:21 pm

      Thanks Stacy, and yes by all means push the link around. There are armies of people out there who need bonked over the head with this. Check out the rest of Future Tom too – I update it every day as a writing experiment/exercise/training sort of thing. So glad you like it!

  18. Gregory Wilcox

    May 25, 2010 at 2:07 pm

    I certainly hope this isn’t what they planned from the beginning. I really hope they meant to explain it all more directly. I mean, right now, I feel like Peyton Farquhar hanging from a noose over Owl Creek because, the way I see it, their explanation of the whole thing is that Jack hit his head in the jungle, went semi-conscious for a few minutes before dying, spun out to Kansas to see Dorothy and the Wizard, fixed the yellow brick road then went into the light.
    I am one of those who accept the ending for what it is. I’m not too disappointed. After all, I continue to read Dean Koontz novels even though I know the plot, the main characters and the ending before I crack the binding. Writers have formulas and when brilliance eludes them, they fall back on those formulas.
    Tom, I think you should consider the possibility that you could write your ending in a novel form. In fact, there could easily be many novels written. Each with a different ending, in a different parallel dimension – or dementia.

    • thomaschalfant

      May 25, 2010 at 4:24 pm

      The Incident at Owl Creek, yeah I remember that one. Mr. Sweeney’s class.

      You are the fourth person to tell me they wished I wrote the end – that’s awfully flatter, and I think we’d need more than four, but I’ll tell you, I just wish ANYONE would write another end.

  19. Sarah

    May 25, 2010 at 3:02 pm

    This is exactly what I have been saying all along. Also a good read.
    Thank so much for your comments Tom.

  20. Ken Howell

    May 25, 2010 at 7:14 pm

    You know, it’s not that I loved or hated the finale… I think I stopped caring a long time ago, maybe. I kind of thought the end of season two, when they showed the arctic researchers working for Penny(never thought I’d type that phrase) jumped the shark a little- it broke the spell of just showing the island.

    • thomaschalfant

      May 26, 2010 at 2:37 am

      I remember when Fonzie really did jump a shark outside of the diner, and I thought it was cool.

  21. Johari

    May 25, 2010 at 9:07 pm

    Absolutely great. Couln’t have said it better.

  22. Erica

    May 25, 2010 at 10:47 pm

    Okay, so my husband and I are still debating if Jack died from the crash. I think he did. My husband thinks that everything that happened on the island truly happened and then everyone lived their lives and met up to go to Heaven together after everyone all died. I am so confused. And I have been playing those damned numbers in the lottery this entire time and now I finally know why I haven’t won. The numbers don’t mean crap, brother.

    • thomaschalfant

      May 26, 2010 at 1:39 am

      The numbers definitely don’t mean crap, sister.

      But I’ll bet you’re not the only one who played the numbers in the lottery, Erica..

    • CJ

      May 26, 2010 at 3:35 am

      Your husband is right. Christian Shepphard explained to Jack that everything that happened on the island actually did happen. The only thing that didnt happen was everything in the “flash sideways” which was a world that was created by everyone that was there in order for them to find each other and be able to move on. Some of them died before Jack, and others(like Kate, Sawyer, Hurley, etc) died wayyy after Jack, but they all found each other in that world, which others are calling purgatory.

  23. Julie

    May 25, 2010 at 10:53 pm

    Hello! I am a huge fan of Lost and I was very emotional about the finale. I thought it did well in that regard (made a huge emotional impact) but it was a manipulative one. I have to admit that many questions weren’t answered. I was also told when I wrote something somewhere that “it isn’t about getting all the answers to your questions, it’s about the characters!” Whatever.
    Yeah, well, you can’t ignore basic questions, like what’s up with the time travel and why the hell did the mother say she made it so that the two (Jacob and MIB) couldn’t hurt each other. Hello, what the hell does that mean? How??
    I am very sad the show is over, but the writers didn’t do the job.

    • thomaschalfant

      May 26, 2010 at 1:33 am

      Yes, in particular, I could have done without the sweeping montages each character got. Felt like the half hour photo op at the end of Return of the King.

      Yes, I keep having people tell me (though not here), that after a whole season of THE TIME FOR QUESTIONS HAS ENDED, that answers are shallow, and for squares.

      Who’d have thunk it?

  24. Tracy

    May 26, 2010 at 2:27 am

    Hello again.sent your link to quite a few friends today. thanks again – it’s helped my mourning the wasted hours i spent touting the show…”best show ever..really makes you think..the score, the details…blah blah blah”.
    starting to hate myself for watching it.

    • thomaschalfant

      May 26, 2010 at 2:45 am

      Definitely the busiest day I’ve ever had, by far. i posted it all over the place, and I have to tell you, I feel a lot better now. A couple of people told me I should watch the whole thing over again now, with my new expectations. Can you imagine doing that now?

      It kind of reminds me of a book called Infinite Jest. You ever read that book?

  25. CJ

    May 26, 2010 at 3:41 am

    I, personally, like the ending as well, but probably because, like you said, I wasn’t really expecting much. I’m chalking up the ending to the fact that perhaps the entire show was being told from Jack’s point-of-view, and was all about Jack, and so, at the point that he dies, he hasn’t discovered all the secrets of the island, and so we aren’t told what they are either, because once he died, it didn’t matter anymore, since the whole story was about him. It’s just my theory, but it makes the ending of the show a satisfactory one for me, because if indeed it was about Jack and everything that he knew, then we really didn’t need to find out more than he did before he died.

    • thomaschalfant

      May 26, 2010 at 12:42 pm

      Yeah, I’ve talked to a few others who liked the end but were not throwing random insults and accusations at people who didn’t, and like I said, I’m not only all for you, I’m jealous of you. Plus, it’s helpful here, because many of us aren’t going to spend the time watching it again, and I see below there you’re clearing up questions for folks, again without the insults. Welcome and namaste!

  26. Geo

    May 26, 2010 at 3:52 am

    So I was disappointed with the finale at first then made some peace with it. Was it what I was looking for? No. Was it beautiful in its way? I think so. But I totally get why people don’t.
    And I would have LOVED to see season 6 based on the ideas you listed above. It would be sick. Nice job.

  27. Adam

    May 26, 2010 at 4:02 am

    It was nice to see all the characters happy in the end, but it was a bit to happily ever after. Jack saves the island and then they meet up in the afterlife. I get the “it was about the characters not the island” a lot but they didnt even answer the all the questions about the charecters

  28. Dad at Home

    May 26, 2010 at 4:27 am

    Here ya go…

    I couldn’t stop laughing. Makes the show seem ultra-ridiculous now.

  29. Sarah

    May 26, 2010 at 1:01 pm

    This guy here completely sums up my thoughts on the finale.

    “I was thunderously disappointed. The writers didn’t have a creative clue how to tie everything together at the end, so they went for the waterworks. It was pathetic really, maudlin and self-indulgent and as shallow as a 1950’s comic book, even the music was soppy and obvious in its manipulativeness. The JOB of a storyteller is to create a complex world full of mystery and suspense with hooks and unexpected twists and turns, always raising the bar – and the RESPONSIBILITY of a storyteller is to EXPLAIN it all in the climax and dénouement! Including tying up all the loose ends. These cop-outs didn’t do that at all, period – instead they created more mysteries about the island! Even the production values stunk – the Dr. Who skeletons, paper mache boulders, and that chintzy hottub that looked like something Elvis might have popped pills in back in Graceland, or a gaudy Vegas hotel room; it just needed black velvet paintings of the polar bear on the wall. I was disgusted. If I knew the writers were going to do a compleat creative cop-out, I wouldn’t have watched more than a few episodes, just to get the drift. During the series I thought they were creative geniuses. Not. Any writer can snap fast and unexpected twists and turns when there’s no need to explain them in the end! It was the biggest con job I’ve seen on TV. An utter crap wrap up with nothing on the central mysteries which were most intriguing. It lowered the bar to the ankles and anyone who thought this was a satisfying ending has expectations lowered far below the lowest common denominator. It’s almost as disgusting to see the army of apologists, an indication of just how far along the stupid downing of America has become. If I submitted a manuscript with a non-ending like that do you think I’d find a publisher to sign? Fergit it. I tossed the entire series in the garbage.”

    • thomaschalfant

      May 26, 2010 at 1:17 pm

      I definitely hear the guy, especially from a writer’s perspective. A lot of huge mainstream blockbuster shows, novels, and films completely violate all the disciplines you try to ingraine in yourself when you’re starting out. And although I could work up a lot of rage at the producers, I tried to stay respectful of folks who got what they wanted out of the show, and didn’t feel the need to posture and primp about how intellectually superior they were for “getting it.”

      Same thing happened when the awful Matrix sequels came out. A small army of basement-dwellers with their stacks of obscure metaphysics texts insisting they were the only ones smart enough to detect how awesome the movie was.

      The idea that after that ending, I should go back and watch it again is sort of nuts to me. I mean, I’ve seen every episode at least twice – that’s how I killed time waiting for the new episodes.

      Now, if the ending had been really great, that’s the first thing I would have done. But you don’t reward them for failing you.

  30. Marty Jones

    May 26, 2010 at 1:17 pm

    Tom, I do like the general idea you had for ending, the two parallel universes the wheel balancing the two etc., that makes far more sense than the nonsense that was shovelled down my throat. There was far to much that we are expected to just pretend never happened or maybe the writers forgot that they had written?

    I would love to have a stab at re-writing the final series of lost to a more satisfactory conclusion. The thing is, the time it would take.. by the time it was complete nobody would care any more. and also the money for research into getting the science correct or even plausible not particularly forthcoming.

    I do feel like I was robbed for all of the dvd’s I bought because they will never be a complete set, even if I did by season 6, so the rest will be going on to fleabay 😦

    • thomaschalfant

      May 26, 2010 at 1:23 pm

      Yeah, and I really didn’t spend much time really working on that idea, that was sort of a general suspicion I had. You’d think if I could come up with something thought-provoking and at least in the ballpark, just banging on a keyboard in the dark, then the guys raking in millions with years to kick it around could have done something other than phone it in.

      I’m all for the symbolism. Symbolism is awesome. But you could take an actual explanation similar to what I proposed, and KEEP ALL THE SYMBOLISM! That’s what I don’t get, how symbolism is just used as an excuse not to finish the story, and then expecting the story to finish, that’s suddenly us not getting the symbolism.

  31. Marty Jones

    May 26, 2010 at 2:04 pm

    so, in short you can sum the whole thing up in a few sentences….

    A plane crashed for some unknown reason, one of the passengers, Jack, survived the original crash and as he lay dying he imagined five years worth of interactions between people that he did not know just seen the faces on the plane before the crash. then died.

    in that respect everything is accounted for as the ramblings of a dying man’s imagination and even takes into account that after season one the writers and produces stated that they were not dead or in purgatory, it was all just a dream as jack was not dead at the time !

  32. BethWitt

    May 26, 2010 at 4:54 pm

    How on earth could people think you didn’t like it because you didn’t get it?! It was a 2 1/2 hour long cliche for crying out loud. It confirmed a lot of suspicions I had for a long time – they didn’t have a road map, they were making it up as they went along. When they couldn’t tie things together, they fell back on some very unoriginal conceptions of the battle between good and evil and of the afterlife. Nothing new, nothing exciting, nothing wow. They did themselves a huge disservice because it wouldn’t have taken much to elevate the story to a much higher level even if they did leave some loose ends.

    The series was always at its weakest when they tried to run two separate story lines at the same time. I almost stopped watching the first time they did it and decided to give them the benefit of the doubt. You know what they say, “Fool me twice, shame on me.”

    • thomaschalfant

      May 26, 2010 at 11:14 pm

      Oh, definitely, man, that’s why when folks tell me to watch it again, it’s like they just sharked me on a pool table and they’re saying, “Double or nothing?”

  33. Pickles

    May 26, 2010 at 6:07 pm

    So you only post comments that totally agree with you I see. Nice. I didn’t agree, but my comment wasn’t negative. But now it will be. You write on a blog, you’re qualified to critique shit and The Home Shopping Network.

    • thomaschalfant

      May 27, 2010 at 3:34 am

      Love this guy – name is apparently Pickles.

      Here’s what he posted early on:

      I enjoyed the finale. Sure, there were a few things that left me scratching my head and a few things I felt were rushed and poorly acted out, but overall I liked it because it has caused so much debate and conversation. And will for years to come.
      I would never refer to those people who didn’t like the ending as ‘idiots’ or ‘not true fans’. I may suggest they take a moment, though…. wait a few days and watch it again with a less negative outlook. And if they still do not like it, then there is always One Tree Hill for them to watch. That is only an insult if you let it be one.

      I tossed it in the trash since it seemed to me that he hadn’t read the article, or that he believed we were all morons and wouldn’t recognize his insult if he hid it in One Tree Hill like an Easter egg, and because the purpose of this piece was not to open up a debate about whether or not we “got it.” Could have sworn I was clear about that.

      But in the interest of full disclosure, yes, here is Pickle’s comment. He thinks that we should all watch One Tree Hill. Also, Pickle, in the interest of full disclosure, I don’t have to post anything you say at all – get your own blog.

      Mr. Pickles. My favorite part of your second comment, is how you assess my writing skills based on my assessment of yours. I am not interested in scratching your back, nor am I interested in providing a forum for the exact sort of jackassery I described above. But since you so aptly made an ass of yourself, I am happy to put you on display.

      Any questions, tough guy?

  34. Chris Busby

    May 26, 2010 at 10:25 pm

    Your reasoning is respectable, and your sentiment understandable. While I hate to open myself up to a critique on the level that you are clearly capable of I did want to say that while I cannot disagree with the content of your statement I don’t personally relate to its emotional disposition, perhaps because I haven’t been subjected to the same reductive arrogant arguments that it sounds like some fans of the ending have been making around you. I guess I never expected the writers to be able to answer the questions that persist. I think that, like life, Lost leaves us with profound questions about what parts of the experience are to be taken at face value and which parts are more allegorical. There is always the reality we share and the reality that is more subjective in nature but very few television shows and indeed very little in popular culture tackles that truth with any skill or subtlety.

    Perhaps it is just the hopeful or forgiving characteristic of a simpleminded fan but my impression of the ending of the show was, as they say, of a finger pointing at the moon. It was an admission that the stakes had become too high and that the storyline was reaching for something that cannot be captured with pen and paper or in a frame of film. That’s not me suggesting that the show needs a stoner’s blog to explain its meaning, rather that there is meaning in the ambiguity and the Rorschach test quality of it all.

    • thomaschalfant

      May 26, 2010 at 11:16 pm

      This is exactly the sort of thing I’m talking about at the beginning, Chris. I’m 100% happy for you, and I definitely wouldn’t judge you for really appreciating what you got. We’re on the same page, and I particularly like the pointing at the moon/ Rorschach test comparison. I really appreciate your commenting, since you might have expected me to snap, but really, most of my anger is right up there – I got it out with my rant.

      • Chris Busby

        May 27, 2010 at 3:18 am

        Thanks Tom, for all your thoughts.

  35. Lou

    May 26, 2010 at 10:38 pm

    As someone who can live with the ending, may I say congrats on one of the most epic rants of all time! The phrase, “Deluded Hot Pocket munchers”?! Consider it stolen. They should include this as a rebuttal on the BlueRay edition of the final season.

    You’re right that the producers have to answer for this. If this was a movie or a book -i.e. a completed work when full presented then it would be a different story, but the producers knew the audience was demanding answers to certain questions before it was finished. If they lied about providing answers to string people along – shame on them.

    • thomaschalfant

      May 26, 2010 at 11:18 pm

      You just hit on my favorite phrase in the rant, too! I don’t think you can steal it – if you start using it then I just coined a phrase, which is on my to-do list. Have at it!

    • thomaschalfant

      May 28, 2010 at 12:09 am

      Maybe I should have clarified, if you’re going to steal it, steal the link not the content! A few people out there are cutting and pasting it, which is not at all cool – copyright violation in fact. But the link, by all means – have at it!

  36. outraged

    May 26, 2010 at 10:42 pm

    Well done. Far out. How can they call this an ending? Jack was supposed to be killed off in the first few episodes, yet he is the crucial instrument in ‘saving the island’. Ben was also only contracted for 3 episodes, yet he killed Locke allowing for the MIB to have a human form? One can say also somewhat crucial. Demonstrates the lack of knowledge of where they were supposed to go. Which is back to the original question: what the hell was that island? How can you end a series….without telling us what the f*%$ing island is? Goddammit Lost. There goes 5-6 years.

    • thomaschalfant

      May 26, 2010 at 11:19 pm

      That is absolutely correct – they said they knew the END, but that’s all they meant. They knew about the cork in the hole in the cave on the island. The rest was doodling. Thank you for commenting!

  37. BossGalaga

    May 26, 2010 at 10:51 pm

    Tom, I’m gonna man up and say…you certainly put me in my place. I’ve been kind of acting like a dick about the whole thing towards people who were unsatisfied with the ending.

    I think it’s because I, personally, WAS satisfied, and still am…but as the days go by I realize I was more satisfied emotionally than intellectually. I think that will continue to be good enough for me…even though, after this ending, I will always view Lost as imperfect.

    Anyway, thanks for setting me on the straight and narrow, brother. My apology campaign begins now. 🙂

    — Brandon

    • thomaschalfant

      May 26, 2010 at 11:21 pm

      I was just telling a friend of mine, if I can make ONE of these guys see the light! Awesome, I might frame this one. No worries, man – you should have heard me bitching about people who didn’t like Watchmen. I’m glad you showed up, and then manned up – stick around and look at some other stuff!

  38. Chesterfaq

    May 26, 2010 at 10:54 pm

    If the ending wasn’t emotional as it was, no one would ever say he liked it…you’re totally right tho, the ending was epicfail.

    • thomaschalfant

      May 26, 2010 at 11:22 pm

      Yeah, i was cool with the emotion, just wanted the rest of it, you know?

  39. Ruthie

    May 26, 2010 at 11:01 pm

    I love your rant. Officially. And I agree. I loved the sappy part of the ending because when it comes down to it, I wanted to see all of my little happy LOST couples back together. Call me a hopeless romantic, and I will agree with you there too.

    That being said I do not feel like much was actually answered at all. I don’t mind the idea of the heaven/nirvana/next life whatever…but it doesn’t explain anything! I do not feel as some do, that I have wasted 6 years watching a show. But it does give me a bit of that same feeling I get after watching a David Lynch movie. It may be a good ride, but you just god mind f**ked and you know it. To me lack of plot line or execution doesn’t mean your “indie cool” or “deep.” It means you were too lazy to come up with a cohesive story so you just through some crap together.

    • thomaschalfant

      May 26, 2010 at 11:24 pm

      Yeah, I actually did kind of like the next life thing – I just didn’t like it on the scale of let’s spend half the last season on it. Yep, the old David Lynch treatment, and then they rooted around in my purse for cab fare while I was asleep. Oh well. Thank you!

  40. Moni

    May 26, 2010 at 11:03 pm

    Marry me!!!!

    • thomaschalfant

      May 26, 2010 at 11:25 pm

      Fair enough.

      • Moni

        May 27, 2010 at 6:11 pm

        Was that a yes!!! You summed up my feelings exactly. I was so disappointed in the ending….I was like were the writers “high” the last six years or what. And the fact that they don’t want to talk about the finale says a lot to me…idoits!!!!

  41. Walker Percy fan

    May 26, 2010 at 11:27 pm

    They gave us a big clue on the next to last episode, the recap. Carlton Cuse is a big fan of Walker Percy. Read “Lost in the Cosmos.” I think the show was an attempt at a new art form, using TV to explore human language and human consciousness, and the history of Western Civilization which many think is about to end. A farewell to the Christian world? I’m not even as smart as y’all are, never tried to follow all the plot lines. Just a huge fan of Walker Percy for many years. Hope this helps, Tom.

  42. JMon

    May 26, 2010 at 11:27 pm

    Wow…. I seriously couldn’t have said it any better myself!! This is just what I needed to read in order to move on from my LOST depression after the finale. Don’t get me wrong… I enjoyed LOST immensely and watched it religiously. However, my biggest drive to watch every episode was simply out of curiosity, to figure out what the hell would happen. When I was let down and left with so many unanswered questions I was furious just like some. Then having to deal with friends and bloggers making me and others sound like complete idiots for not understanding what the hell just happened, well that only angered me more. I understand completely that everything couldn’t have been answered and that LOST should be left with SOME mystery. However, I believe the writers took the easy way out and I’m still left as confused as I was after the first season. So I thank you for posting this unbelievably accurate letter/blog. You literally took the words right out of my mouth!

    • thomaschalfant

      May 26, 2010 at 11:34 pm

      You’re welcome sister! I’m sure you and I were feeling the same thing, because that was definitely right from the heart. If you thought that was vitriol, by the way, you should have heard my youngest daughter, kicking stuff around the living room at 11:30 at night.

      If you liked it, pass the link, and also you can follow The Curse of Future Tom on Facebook, if you don’t mind me plugging my own page there.

      I’m the same way, I feel a hundred times better after writing and posting it, so I’m glad you feel better reading and posting it. Hope to see you around here more!

  43. Beth Reyna

    May 27, 2010 at 1:01 am

    Thank you! I feel so much better after reading your theories! I felt so cheated and have been a faithful fan for all 6 seasons. I, too, didn’t feel like they had to answer ALL the questions, but a few would have been nice! I would have preferred the waking up from a dream ending to what we got. They didn’t even mention Michael…

  44. Curis Bloes

    May 27, 2010 at 1:14 am

    thank you for writing what we are all thinking. I am sharing the link.

  45. penney

    May 27, 2010 at 1:36 am

    I’m so glad I’m not the only person who went ..What?”
    The ending wasn’t all that great. If they wanted to end as they began..ER did it better. So did 24. And not answering the question of Walt’s connection and power to make birds fly into walls, or why Echo and the smoke monster were able to talk to each other…and on and on..was just ….
    Thanks Tom..I’m right there with ya’

  46. ecossie possie

    May 27, 2010 at 1:52 am

    The reason the mother said she had made it so the they could never hurt each other…..Is that the were already dead ..How could they have lived without there mother to suckle them?Also when man in black junior asked his phyco false mother what is dead? She replied something youl never have to worry about.Thats also why Jacobs ghost was able to alternate beetween adult an child as he was born as a ghost

  47. Patricia

    May 27, 2010 at 1:56 am

    Awesome! I agree 100% with you. I’m really tired of people saying they get it… no idea what they are smoking…

  48. d

    May 27, 2010 at 2:06 am

    Ahhh…loved your letter! Summed it up perfectly. At dinner Monday night, my daughter said one of her teachers said he loved the finale & it answered every question. To which I said rather loudly, really?!?!? She said yes, but that he didn’t watch the whole series. I told her when she went to school the next day to smack him upside the head for me….

    So loved your ending. I’m going to flash sideways from now on & pretend that really was the ending…. Thanks

  49. denise o.

    May 27, 2010 at 2:07 am

    Great read, very funny! On an emotional level I loved the ending because it brought closure to the characters. On an intellectual level I hated the finale because it lacked the cleverness that I expected from such a great show. Everything they showed us was so obvious. I felt like they were hitting us over the head with a frying pan like Wile E. Coyote. Everything was so, how shall I say it, spelled out and wrapped up so neatly with a Christmas bow. I expected them to break out and start singing Kumbayah in the Church. Puke.

  50. Jenn

    May 27, 2010 at 2:08 am

    Wow, I loved your ending!! I wish they had done that lol. The ending I came up with (just to pacify myself) pales in comparison to yours.

    My husband and I disagree on the ending. I really felt like it was a total cop out and that I was robbed. But he liked it and it made him happy, so….

    • thomaschalfant

      May 27, 2010 at 2:11 am

      Well, as long as he wasn’t being insulting about it, I’m super happy for him too! Thank you for commenting – and thanks about the ending. I was walking around telling people I thought I had it figured out right after the season opened with the two timelines. Everyone thought I was nuts – and they were right, but I wish they hadn’t been.

  51. Frank

    May 27, 2010 at 2:14 am

    Thanks for this. It was cathartic. Sitting here discussing this with my wife, (who’s also pissed, but gets a pass for crying her eyes out during “The End” cuz she’s just that kind of girl), we’re pondering where the show broke faith. I’m thinking it was when Locke went into Jacob’s cabin. Up until that point, Jacob was a vehicle for Ben’s powerbase. Ben could have come clean and said sound effects and an actuator on the rocking chair, but I need to spook these people or they’ll shred each other. Smoke Monster is a nanobot experiment which got out of hand like the rest of the Dharma experiments under the big Hanso tent. Planes/ships come in because we jack up the navigation signals, etc. etc. etc. Explanations within some degree of plausibility, but still allow for substantial character development, good vs. bad, and entertainment. ANYTHING but this Hobbit-smarmy ending…..

    • thomaschalfant

      May 27, 2010 at 2:22 am

      The nanobot smoke monster thing is the best explanation for the smoke monster I’ve ever heard. And I was trying to call it a Hobbit-smarmy ending for a couple of days now, but never came up with the term – well done!

      Hey, I don’t blame your wife for crying. I thought that last five minutes would have been an okay ending, if they had wrapped anything literal up first.

    • thomaschalfant

      May 27, 2010 at 2:23 am

      I mean, damn – nanobots might even explain the machine sounds it made!

  52. Pablo Neruda

    May 27, 2010 at 2:28 am

    Thank you for putting it so well — I too would have come up with something much better for an ending (and several of the latter plot elements) — I like your take on the two timelines. The last 10 minutes on Sunday made me want to throw the TV out the window! That pseudo-religious limbo-land of happy dead people made me sick!

    • thomaschalfant

      May 27, 2010 at 2:53 am

      That’s the weird thing – it really seems like, if it’s a normal show, they’re limited to regular rules, but we’ve got time travel, teleportation, psychics, people who can talk to the dead, shapeshifters – I really think anyone with half a brain who puts their mind to it with those versatile tools could come up with an ending. This was simply hostile.

  53. spireofdublin

    May 27, 2010 at 2:45 am

    This letter is excellent. I actually spent time on the darkUFO forum trying to find answtoers to the huge gaps in the storytelling that made me very annoyed at the ending, and all I could find were people saying if you don’t like it you don’t get it and wow did i ever want to slap everyone of them in their stupid fuckin faces. I mean is it really too much to ask to expect an answer to what is the island!!! Anyway superb retort to the “enlightened ones”

    • thomaschalfant

      May 27, 2010 at 2:51 am

      Right, I mean, doesn’t mean we don’t like symbolism, just wrap it up while you’re at it.

  54. Carrie

    May 27, 2010 at 2:47 am

    I couldn’t have said it better myself, these self righteous bastards that say we don’t get it, just because we hated it…here’s an idea, maybe you can’t face the thought that deep down, you too have wasted 6 years watching lost, just to be duped in the end…
    We have a group on Facebook where we have some great discussions going, please join we love to hear your views-!/group.php?gid=113201435389508&ref=mf

    • thomaschalfant

      May 27, 2010 at 2:50 am

      Carrie your link took me to the home page – what’s it called? Thank you, though, for commenting!

  55. rachel

    May 27, 2010 at 2:57 am

    i’m so glad to find some camraderie in this. i’ve only been able to tell my closest friend how i didn’t like the ending for fear i will get a worse beating than ben ever has. thank you so much for this!

    • thomaschalfant

      May 27, 2010 at 3:06 am

      Think of us as the Dharma Initiative, Rachel.

  56. Max

    May 27, 2010 at 3:23 am

    I’m not really a fan of Lost. I tried watching it after it was a couple of seasons in but couldn’t afford the time to catch up or keep up. Nonetheless, I have friends who are fans of the series and I’ve heard all the ranting about the ending. It sounds like the producers had to finish the series and realised they didn’t have the ability to wrap it up as well as they wanted, based on second-hand accounts.
    Then again, this could be an old marketing ploy of “leaving a few doors open”. It’s easier to come back and milk more money out of a franchise if there is still room to make some “shocking” or “revealing” special movie, or novel, or comic book, or whatever, that reveals the backstory behind some unanswered question in the show.

  57. Paige

    May 27, 2010 at 3:55 am

    I just came in to say that I agree with you. The ending was disappointing because…it was so predictable and left me feeling like nothing even HAPPENED in the episode. I don’t recall feeling worried at any point during the finale and to me…that means the ending didn’t hold value you to me…i just knew things would be fine. I want answers to questions too, but thats not the reason i didnt like the ending. the ending, to me, wasnt about answers, it was about ending the show the appropriate way and i personally think the writers copped out and gave a crap ending. I predicted it and so did my mom…. I just think they could have taken it to a completely different level and that they missed their target. Its not that I don’t understand the ending, cuz I do, but i just didn’t like it.

  58. Jer

    May 27, 2010 at 4:14 am

    Thank you. I had been building 6 seasons of emotion with absolutely no catharsis at the conclusion of the show. Just reading your rant made me feel better 🙂 (Great ideas for alternate ending btw.)

  59. Alvaro

    May 27, 2010 at 4:40 am

    I haven´t read all your letter but you are a stupid person…that´s it.
    You want to find sense in a fucking Tv show…let it be

    • thomaschalfant

      May 27, 2010 at 4:42 am

      Awesome, thanks for clearing that up. Nothing spells smart like a guy assessing a letter he hasn’t read.

    • bones1979

      May 27, 2010 at 2:05 pm

      this doesn’t make those that liked it look good

      Please stop

  60. Darth Sillynous

    May 27, 2010 at 5:01 am

    WOW that Alvaro guy. Anyway, I enjoyed your letter and see exactly what you mean. Although I enjoyed the finale on an emotional level, I was left at WTF once the smoke cleared. Best described as “Heart satisfied, but the brain said ‘Wait a minute…'” I cannot stand the utter hatred and anger being spread about a TV show. Yes, I would have loved to see an ending much like you described. At least something scientific explanation to balance the “faith” ending we got, but I cannot understand bashing someone for having an opinion against what we were fed. I think that the ending result is somewhat fitting to the overall Lost theme with the ambiguity so we can all still discuss, theorize, and comment for months to come. Balance would have been better had science been included other than a cork.

  61. Jodie

    May 27, 2010 at 5:09 am

    I don’t understand why you would pick apart the children and Mr. Eko if you knew this years ago. You had a choice to stop watching anytime, yet you stuck with the show. =)

    I’m sorry you are having such a hard time with the final episode. I felt a bit stung by the ending at first, but after sleeping on it, I felt much better.

    You sound so very angry and lump everyone that enjoyed the episode into the same category. It takes much less energy to be angry about the ending.

    I don’t think you are stupid at all… what I think is that you didn’t like the ending. You are allowed your opinion as much as everyone else. Again, I’m sorry it didn’t end the way you needed it to end.

    • thomaschalfant

      May 27, 2010 at 5:19 am

      Well, Jodie, if you’ll just peruse the first six or seven paragraphs, I think you’ll find that I do not lump everyone that enjoyed the episode together, in fact quite the opposite, but you’re being perfectly cool, and I respect your opinion as well.

      And like I said, when the Eko and the children thing was going on, that’s about when I was really looking into it – you guys sure you know what you’re doing? Yep, they said. And to be sure, the writing was high quality – I believed them.

      It wasn’t just the ending that bothered me. It was that the entire story was undermined – for me – by most of the entire last season. I think if you spend five years posing bizarre questions, it’s pretty weird to be shocked that people want answers. But again, if you were satisfied and don’t want any trouble, then by all means, neither do I.

      In the end, it isn’t the show I’m angry at, in this letter. It’s the people insisting that I didn’t “get” the show. People who, unlike you, choose to call the rest of us stupid, for not liking it. Their ranks needed answered, and you can see by the comments here, I’m not alone in that opinion.

      Here’s some common ground: I felt much better after sleeping on it, too.

      • Jodie

        May 27, 2010 at 7:44 pm

        You know what… I think it’s kind of beautiful the way Lost has polarized the fans. It has caused a lot more discussion and review than a “tie it all together” ending would have done.

        Regardless whether Lost is reflected upon as being one of the greatest tv shows of all time… it will certainly go down as one of the shows that caused the greatest controversy at its ending. Which is kinda brilliant in my eyes. =)

        I think the writers knowingly did this. Cop out? Maybe. I like to hope not. I don’t know. None of us know the true intentions of why they wrapped it up the way they did… we can all speculate.

        But trust I found parts of the finale pretty lame.

        1. The birth of Aaron again. I didn’t get all warm and fuzzy.. I got annoyed. Totally unrealistic. I could stomach all of the other reunions, but this one irked me.

        2. How Smokie died. Seriously? lol My hubby is still reeling over that one.

        3. The cork.

        I realize there are likely no answers for the many questions people have about the show. I thought this too would bother me, but I kinda like that it’s a mystery.

      • thomaschalfant

        May 27, 2010 at 11:55 pm

        Can’t argue with a positive attitude like that, Jodie. And I’d agree, you could be incredibly positive and still think, a cork, really? And also, hmm, never expected throwing the guy off the cliff would work.

        Thanks for commenting, and since you liked the show – thanks for not taking offense. It was really a bunch of online bully-types, I wanted to knock down, certainly not you, and really, not even the show.

  62. Ryall

    May 27, 2010 at 5:12 am

    G’day thomas, thank you for taking the time to write this, it was a joy to read! I can relate to it in almost every way. I remember the hook LOST grabbed me with, part twilight zone, part survival drama, all mystery. I too began to worry and eventually gave up on a satisfying conclusion, so I was really only watching out of curiosity. Like looking at a car crash, or reading WoT by Robert Jordan.
    Genuinely hoping they pulled it off, but sceptical.

    For me it started to get really laughable when the smoke monster was a person too, I suppose I’m too based in sci-fi and I preferred it to be a semi/non-sentient automated defence system of the island or something.

    I know the producers want to throw the focus onto the people, but for me the main character was the island. The island never got its’ own episode with flashes, the technical detail I want from a tv show was on the cover – but the substance inside was deepak chopra.

    Sadly I imagine the producers write for a large demographic, many of whom would be far less discerning than us. It’s like no one author can get it right fully, they merely aggregate the best ideas of a few genres and leave room for the next.

    What I’ll remember fondly:
    the discovery of the hatch and the dharma initiative.
    I think I liked the dharma mystery as much as who made the island. seeing the monster for the first time, clicking and howling. discovering there was a tail section of survivors. when ben shifted the island.
    anything with sayid.

    What I’ll be frustrated by the most:
    why was walt standing there dripping wet speaking backwards? It was really creepy, I remember thinking what the? I know it’s only one small thing. I agree the numbers are worse, don’t even think about that one. I think there is a collective disappointment that our worst fears were true, to preserve interest many plot threads would remain unfulfilled. Even at the end.

    I’ll share this with my friends and tweet it, personally I think you’ve done a definitive rebuttal here. I’m impressed. I like your style of writing, you present a clear logical argument. I too loved Watchmen, so I’ll keep a bookmark of your writings for later on.

    sincerely thank you

    • thomaschalfant

      May 27, 2010 at 5:22 am

      Yeah, Disposable Backward Talking Walt was troubling to me, as well. I really appreciate your pushing the link – the response has been tremendous! You and I are on the exact same page about the hatch and Dharma – I was completely enthralled at that point in the series, and also about the smoke monster being a dude. A guy commented earlier that he was pulling for a nanite experiment gone horribly wrong, and I LOVE that idea.

      But, what to do. Certainly I’m not here to tell folks how to end their show, I’m just not here to take a bunch of crap from the weird you-didn’t-get-it crowd.

      You’re sincerely welcome –

      • Robert

        May 28, 2010 at 12:58 am

        Anyone know why Myles says that Juliet says, “it worked” when he is listening to her thoughts after she made the A-Bomb go off?

  63. HeatherS

    May 27, 2010 at 5:35 am

    I have to say I really think those bastards did have a plan from the beginning…….How far can we push our viewers? How many times can we dissapoint them but they keep coming back for more? I think they were holding their own private experiment at our expense and laughing their asses off while they rolled in their millions. I have had a love hate relationship with this show for years and I couldn’t be more dissapointed with the ending. I will admit it was emotionally satifying in a way but what I wanted was ANSWERS! Thanks Tom for your post and allowing me to vent as well.

    • thomaschalfant

      May 27, 2010 at 3:22 pm

      Thank you and you’re welcome – and vent away. I also feel like they were having a good old time at our expense.

  64. Dan

    May 27, 2010 at 5:46 am

    (disclaimer, i liked the ending) Well you make some interesting points but it’d be better if it didn’t read like a disjointed anger management session. i mean of course its ok to not like what they did with their story, and i don’t agree with the whole “if you didn’t like it, you didn’t get it” attitude some people have either, but geez make a more coherent response. Anyways, if you’re complaining that they didn’t explain the mechanics of using a wheel to harness “light” energy…i think you may be reaching a bit. also, no thanks to your alternative ending…nice try though

    • thomaschalfant

      May 27, 2010 at 5:49 am

      Well, I certainly can’t argue with “no thanks.”

      • Dan

        May 27, 2010 at 12:16 pm

        because “no thanks” is a bit more polite than “that’s a really dumb idea, thank god you aren’t a writer”

  65. Louis

    May 27, 2010 at 5:54 am

    here’s what I think happened. I think the original intent was to make the island purgatory. They all died in the plane crash and needed to find themselves, pay some price, etc. But us peeps are too smart and figured that out really quickly and now the producers were like “shit” we have to keep the mystery going because we’re in season one and need the network to order more. So they told everyone, “no, it’s not purgatory. keep watching and you’ll see”.

    Seasons 1-4 are some of the best TV ever, at the time. But now without a proper ending, it doesn’t seem as good. I mean it’s pretty easy to just keep making stuff up and then never go back and connect it all. I mean, lets create a show about a 7 foot star basketball player who scores 100 points a night, but who also hits 1000 homeruns, throws for 50,000 yards in the NFL, and never has a goal scored against him in a hockey net. And in his free time rescues cats out of trees. What’s the catch??? there is none, he’s just gifted.

    As I watched the last season, I kept thinking, when are they going to answer these questions, and instead they kept giving us more… the temple, the healing water, the “evil test”, etc. I had a feeling we were going to be screwed over so I went in with low expectations. I did feel kind of warm at the end, but I had no idea what it all meant. The more I think about it, the more I realize how much it under delivered on the narrative level.

    Is it just me, or does anyone else feel more sympathy towards MIB than Jacob. Afterall, Jacob turned him into the smoke monster. All MIB wanted to do was get off the island once he realized he was being lied to and his “mother” killed his mother. I like the idea of shades of gray, but they should have just stuck with Richard’s idea of the devil, evil incarnate. Yeah, it’s simple, but at least it’s something.

    And what about all the characters having father issues? Is this just the writer’s catharsis or was there a point to it all. I kept waiting for that ah ha moment, but it never came.

  66. Mai

    May 27, 2010 at 5:58 am

    It seems like the only one who thinks he’s a “pseudo-intellectual” elitist here is YOU. Despite your incredibly redundant assurances that those of us who liked the ending aren’t the subject of your tedious, whiny tirade, your snarky comments insulting our intelligence suggest otherwise. So what if we chose to enjoy it on a spiritual level rather than dissect it scene for scene? Oh my, you’re SOOO much smarter than us, because YOU weren’t fooled by the cork in the light pool thing. Get over yourself. You criticize others for judging you or demeaning you for not liking the finale, but then you turn around and do the same to them (and the rest of us, who DID like it, and DON’T give a shit if you did or didn’t). And for the record, don’t mock bloggers who live in their parents’ “basement”, because I’m pretty sure that’s where you and your family-size bag of cheetoh’s hole up while you’re storyboarding your own fantasy ending…(which in all fairness, mutual disdain aside, sounded pretty good…and soooooo much more believable (ok, that last bit was saracastic, but I did like your ending)).

    • thomaschalfant

      May 27, 2010 at 6:02 am

      Man, I really wasn’t expecting the old I-know-you-are-but-what-am-I defense. Are you a ninja?

      You know, if you did like it and you don’t give a shit if I did or didn’t, then just re-read the first ten paragraphs or so, I wasn’t talking to you.

      But you sound like you needed the letter anyway, so I’m glad you enjoyed it, tough guy.

  67. Anna

    May 27, 2010 at 6:09 am

    Hi T, interesting, well done rant. Enjoyed reading it and glad you got that out. I usually don’t read rants but I’ve been intrigued by this debate.

    The exact moment Lost hooked me was during episode one when the smoke monster first took our breath away with it’s sinister, part mechanical part organic presence. At that same moment the camera work, the looks on the actor’s faces, the promise of joining them on their unexpected journey was when I knew the show was different, worth following. Then the hatch sealed it for me, Desmond’s bare feet hitting the floor and the placing of a turntable needle onto an old 70’s song. For me, those will always be the best moments in Lost. That and systematically drooling over Jack, Sawyer, Jin and Sayid 🙂 What more would a halfway intelligent woman want for a Tuesday night.

    sigh.. promises partially filled. Still enjoyed the ride though.



    • thomaschalfant

      May 27, 2010 at 6:13 am

      Totally with you Anna – that needle and bare feet scene in particular. I don’t really write rants that often, either!

      So much good about the show, like I said, I’m barely mad at it. Just tired of the Emperor’s New Clothes thing. Thank you very sincerely for commenting!

  68. The UnTimely

    May 27, 2010 at 6:35 am

    Tom, you may not be Brilliant–but then again, you may be. You certainly are hilarious. I am equally insulted, and I know for a fact I’m a moron. Let me qualify that: I was a fan of Alias(before Jennifer Garner became preggers and changed the plotline somewhat). But herein lies the pattern. The guy sure knows how to hook you in, but he just can get the big one in the boat. Rambaldi, nuff said, if you watched the show. Here is a fictional DaVinci-like (DaVinciesque) character, who creates machines centuries ahead of his own technology, that the world’s super-power’s intelligence agencies scramble the globe to collect. Why? To preserve his own, thus immortalizing his own Alien DNA? No, the net result and hyper machine returns the one word: PEACE. Haha, Irony. Good one Mr Abrams. That one is on you, shame on me for this one!!! Now I don’t want to watch Flash Forward. I want to fire bomb the ABC studios–jokes. Only if I could get away with it. Owl Creek Bridge all over again. Amatuerish, creative writing 101 NoNos.

  69. Ted

    May 27, 2010 at 7:20 am

    I wonder if Hurley would have liked the ending. Considering how he felt about the ewoks.

    Sheesh, I only wanted the war they promised.

    Very funny article.

  70. Lucy Spinella-Martin

    May 27, 2010 at 8:27 am

    There are far too many questions unanswered! Who was Richard? Why the storyline with him and his wife that died? A whole episode of his life and what happened, yet he wasn’t in the church at the end! Also, in the “real” life, when Jack operated on John Locke’s spine, John said to him that Jack didn’t have a son, but we see he did…what was that about? What about Witmore? Where did he go? And his daughter Penny? How did she die? She wasnt on the plane crash! Also Anna-Lucia, she was on the crash wasn’t she!? Where was she in the end, she was a big charactor in the show, she was killed but she wasn’t in the church. I really thought they would answer all the questions we all had, but it felt that the end was almost improvised as they went along. What was the Dharma? And the “Others”? 1 minute Desmond was part of the Dharma, the next he was on the flight. Why did they have to enter the code every 108 minutes? Nothing makes sense and nothing was really answered!
    “We all die at some point” No S**t, but that doesn’t answer anything about the whole point of the island…or was it just me!?

    • Nick B

      May 27, 2010 at 12:56 pm

      Whoa Lucy, you seem to have missed something. Rewatch Christian’s speech at the end. The Island world was real. The Sideways world was fake. That’s why John said Jack didn’t have a son, because that was fake. The point is that everyone in the church somehow needed each other, and were all significant to each other somehow. Everyone else involved had their own little groups to get together or weren’t real. Ana-Lucia “wasn’t ready”–they said so in the show. When exactly was Desmond part of Dharma? The point of the Sideways world is that everything was different because it wasn’t the real world.

      But you’re right, they didn’t really answer the whole point of the island, especially the numbers.

      • bones1979

        May 27, 2010 at 1:58 pm

        “Jacob had a thing for numbers” was their answer

        was it a good answer…I’d have to say “no” but to say they didn’t really answer it isn’t 100% correct

        I loved the show, but the answer to this didn’t appeal to me really.

  71. AnniePrue

    May 27, 2010 at 9:33 am

    Its only a TV series – lighten up. Having said that I was left unsatisfied by the ending too!!

    • thomaschalfant

      May 27, 2010 at 3:19 pm

      Excellent advice – that’s exactly what I’m going to do now. My fever is broken.

  72. Marty Jones

    May 27, 2010 at 11:01 am

    It always makes me laugh when people post comments on blogs and claim they don’t care about the subject they are commenting on. (looking in Michaels direction) Then it makes me roll on the floor in agonising pain laughing when they carry on with the “I make more money than you so I am more intelligent than you.” Then carry on with a “I don’t have time for this in my busy life making lots of money.” then spit out your dummy and tell us all you don’t care what anyone says because you wont be back to read it. If I was a betting man, I would bet a stupid amount of money that you would be back to see what’s said and a little but if a flutter that you would post under a different name?

    How can you possibly guess what Toms income may or not be? How can you possibly judge you earn more? Next thing you will want a wall to have a pissing contest, or a ruler for a dick measuring contest…I smell troll…

    What’s the point in making more money than you need? What’s the point in being so busy making money that you don’t have time to spend it, or even spend the time to enjoy life, television shows for instance or your wife and children?

    Personally, I work 3 days a week (out of choice and self employed), and make enough money for my needs, I get to spend the rest of my time enjoying life, my wife and kids company, travel, television and commenting on what I have seen on TV.. . Its all about balance.

    And just for the record, before you start estimating my income, my business started as my hobby of photography. Based on April and May, I project that I will be in the 40% tax bracket this year. I could cut back on work and pay less tax, but I wont, I will put my money into the governments pockets to do my bit against the ridiculous national debit we are in.

    now where’s that wall with the measurment marks and a 18 inch ruler (a 12 inch one is not long enough)

    • thomaschalfant

      May 27, 2010 at 3:18 pm

      Thanks for that, too, Marty, but I went ahead and booted the troll, after his third or fourth re-enactment of the exact crap you were just talking about. I’m sure he’s got a solid gold house to power wash or something.

      Some of that other stuff, I’ll Facebook you about – I saw you joined the group.

      Dick-measuring contest. Heh. Good stuff.

      • Marty Jones

        May 27, 2010 at 8:43 pm

        lol, that guy just bugged me…. I know his type, image is everything, shallow as piss on concrete, drives around in the largest penis extension he can afford (at the expense of his kids education fund!).

        Please feel free to add me as a friend on facebook, I dont use it as much as i used to, so drop me a emai lif you like!

  73. Peach

    May 27, 2010 at 11:48 am

    Thanks, Tom, just THANKS. I don’t know if you meant to do it, but I think what you’ve managed to do here is create a place – nay, a refuge – for people who felt robbed by the LOST finale and then had insults added to their injuries by overzealous LOST fans who pounce on anyone who declares the finale (or any part of LOST) as anything less than perfect. Reading this article and the comments, I feel like I’m in group therapy and this is my support group. I’m still really mad, like I’d been robbed/conned, but it really means a lot to know that I’m not alone.

    • HeatherS

      May 27, 2010 at 6:47 pm

      Peach, I so agree with you. I am angry too and the best word I can think of to describe how I feel is “betrayed” I feel like this, I compare LOST to a relationship and we all knew that it was coming to an end. We developed expectations. Heck it was almost a love affair. We got dumped! The relationship didn’t end on good terms! Those expectations were smashe., I feel like they, the writers, were probably laughing at us! Maybe I’m just a sucker. For all of you who enjoyed the ending and feel the need to belittle those of us who didn’t, let me share a really important life lesson that I have learned…..sometimes we just have to agree to disagree. We were all created with vast differences and that’s what keeps life interesting.

  74. Nick B

    May 27, 2010 at 12:59 pm

    One of the things that really gets me is that from the start of the Sideways timeline, the producers told us that we shouldn’t be thinking of the Sideways timeline as fake or subsidiary. I suppose to them that was true, but they knew full well that most people would consider a partial afterlife to be a fake world, as they would if the island was just what happened when they were all dead.

  75. Palo

    May 27, 2010 at 1:02 pm

    I believe you’re supposed to spell ‘LOST’ in all capital letters.

    • thomaschalfant

      May 27, 2010 at 3:15 pm

      I think you’re right! Habit, I guess, on my part.

  76. Jay

    May 27, 2010 at 1:10 pm

    Good read Tom. Pretty much sums up me feelings

    Seems to me the writers didn’t have a clue, so took the path of least resistance. They essentially broadsided us with this sudden emphasis on ‘it’s all about the characters’. No it wasn’t! The show was about the mystery, the intrigue, the little details that we, the viewers, unravelled piece by piece like some sort of passive detectives every week, not some soap opera!

    To have all that ripped away was just sad. The ending definitely worked on an emotional level, but it was all smoke (monsters!) and mirrors. There was no real pay off.

    If the show was really about the characters, then why spend so much time on Jacob and MIB who the viewer has not emotionally invested 6 years in to. Or dedicate an entire episode to Alpert and still not really give us any pay off.

    Looking back the only really complete part of Lost was the journey Jack took. I liked how he transformed from a Man of Science, to a Man of Faith. It felt like a complete journey, and every character should have had a similar arc – but they didn’t – and in the case of some, like Sayid, the ending just felt wrong. The line where Christian said something like ‘the island was the most important time in your lives’ seemed there purely to justify Sayid hooking up with Shannon again, which in itself felt a contrivance purely to get Boone / Shannon back in and ensure they had padded the ending with as many characters as possible. The omission of Mr Eko felt odd, and my immediate thought was ‘huh, must be contractual issues’.

    I’m loathe to describe the writing in the final series as lazy, as I’m sure behind the scenes the effort going on must have been phenomenal – it’s just infortunate that ambition outstripped ability by such a large margin.

    • bones1979

      May 27, 2010 at 1:53 pm

      I’d have to disagree a bit on this. Each show was “character centric” not “mystery centric”. They can always point that out to support their position. Did they intentionally make mysteries to gain interest? Of course. Do you think a soap opera on an Island would garner 6 seasons of interest? Nope, been their, done that.

      You make some good points for your side however. Are you right? As right as those that liked it.

      Namaste brother

    • thomaschalfant

      May 27, 2010 at 3:14 pm

      Love your last paragraph there – you’re right. Lazy is probably not the right word – though to some of us, it’s the right feel. But yes, more actual work went into this show than 99% of the shows out there, ever.

  77. Steve

    May 27, 2010 at 1:10 pm

    I agree- we all had different expectations from this show, and what was finally delivered did not even come close to mine. Thanks for sharing a well written piece!

  78. nathan colquhoun

    May 27, 2010 at 1:10 pm

    I have already passed this letter out to some friends who are trying to explain to me that they just like mystery more than I do. This letter was perfect, I also linked to it on my post on 5 reasons why lost disappointed which wasn’t as well written, but adds to the fire. Thanks for writing this, this letter was literally more entertaining than the finale itself.

    • thomaschalfant

      May 27, 2010 at 3:13 pm

      Hey, didn’t want you to think I was ignoring you, I just have a ton of traffic right now and I wanted to get over to your site when I have time to really read and comment. I appreciate your posting the link over there – right at the top, too! I’ll definitely be over there later tonight. Thanks again, Nathan..

  79. ecossie possie

    May 27, 2010 at 1:47 pm

    People like Ana Lucia an Miles were not ready to move on.They were still obsessed with money an material things.Miles dug the dimonds up from the grave an Ana Lucia wanted a bribe for freeing them from the Police Van.I dont care what Christian Shepard says Everyone on that Island was dead It was an Island for Lost Souls who had made no meaningfull emotionall contacts in life.On the Island people had to learn to live to gether or die an face eternety alone.The Others all dead Dharma all dead .Smokey an Jajob there mother all dead

  80. bones1979

    May 27, 2010 at 1:48 pm

    I liked the finale and the series. they didn’t answer all the questions they made but hey, it’s their fictional show.

    We rarely get a great tie-in in any show/movie/etc…especially one that originates as a possibly 1 season thing then explodes to 6.

    I don’t think either side is smarter than the other. I see your point about one side saying the other “just didn’t get it” but I’ve seen as many “you were fleeced by the writers, i’m smarter than that and i wasn’t” comments to last a lifetime. I don’t think I was fleeced at all. I realize everything is about the money and LOST wasn’t really different. The marketing for this show was always “questions will be answered” and did they deliver? ehhh, sorta.

    If you make a show, let me know as I’m sure we could critique even the best of shows.

    Thanks for watching it though.

    Namaste brother

    • thomaschalfant

      May 27, 2010 at 3:11 pm

      Can’t argue with that, man. Namaste.

      I guess a little bit there at the end – neither of us has made a show, but we’ve both got opinions of it, and we’ve both posted them. If you need to make a show to qualify for posting about it – not much would get discussed.

      But yes, to be sure, in hindsight, I think I regret a little of the poison – but it was the poison I needed to cough up, you know?

      I don’t have a show by the way, but I write something and post it at this site every day – and trust me, plenty of it stinks out loud! I definitely get your stones-and-glass-houses angle. Hope to see you around here – thanks again for commenting.

      • bones1979

        June 2, 2010 at 5:18 pm

        Hey, no problem brotha

        Thanks for getting back at me.

  81. Candre

    May 27, 2010 at 2:30 pm

    I did like the ending, I liked it a lot. But I never loved Lost. I was never a “fan”. I watched every single episode, but I always did it with little patience. Lost sometimes just seemed improvised, and I have never believed that they had all the answers. And when they started saying that some answers would not be addressed, I just knew it. And the Adam and Eve thing was not satisfactory to me. So, in a way, I prefer not to be given stupid answers. J.J. Abrahams loves a mystery box; he loves not knowing what’s inside it… So he’s not going to open it. It was not an intellectual ending, but a “poetic” one. It’s quite easy to end the series saying “but none of what happens in earth or life is important… We’ll end up in the same place, and all is love and forgiveness”… But it is better than having crappy answers, to me. I understand everything you say, AND I think you’re right. I thank you for being on the minority of people that is able to express their opinion with arguments and without empty stupid insults. 🙂

  82. Ian Robinson

    May 27, 2010 at 2:45 pm

    Here’s the thing. I don’t claim to know all the answers, and I don’t think the producers should either. To be honest, I enjoyed the ending for what it was – one of (ONE of) the only possible ways of ending the show so that their aren’t fans aren’t there asking for a movie, or a spin-off. At least in 20 years we won’t see a movie about what happened after they all went to the afterlife.

    However, I’m not walking around telling people I understood why they did what they did. I have no friggin’ clue. I respect people who enjoyed the ending, I respect people who don’t. What I respect about your blog is the fact that you didn’t make your opinion that of everyone’s. Anyone knocking on your door telling you not to tell them how to think, are stupid.

    Well written, and good opinion.

    One last thing though, is we can’t really blame the producers/directors/whoever else for Eko’s leaving. He was meant to leave in the fourth season anyway, and we can’t really say the producers MADE him have a DUI.. lol.

    • thomaschalfant

      May 27, 2010 at 2:57 pm

      Thanks, I really appreciate that – and good point about Eko.

      Looking back at it from a no-longer-seething-with-rage angle, I can see how toward the end, I do seem to lean a little more toward sounding like I’m laying into anyone who liked it at all, so I do understand some of the anger, but I meant the first ten paragraphs – I don’t think folks who liked it are dense at all. In fact, the whole letter isn’t meant as a critique of Lost at all, it’s really directed at the people-who-don’t-like-it-didn’t-get-it crowd. But that’s a pretty fine line, I’ll admit.

      Maybe if I were writing it again, I’d tone it down a tad, but then again, I think it’s pretty clear I needed to get that out of my system, and I’m shocked at how quickly it’s caught on – for both sides. Thanks again, Ian.

  83. Marty Jones

    May 27, 2010 at 3:22 pm

    So here’s an Idea that could work and satisfy the people like me that believe the final episode/series of lost just stank up the place….

    How about a wiki page where a bunch of people who fancy their chances of writing and alternative series end? First work on the actual story to bring it to a satisfactory end then actually script it?

    It could done so that anyone can add ideas and opinions, suggest scenes, remind us of the smaller elements that we may have forgotten about… but have a small number of people to put the ideas together and make it all work….

    who if anyone is up for it?

    • thomaschalfant

      May 27, 2010 at 3:32 pm

      I’ll tell you what, I think I saw that Nathan posted something like that over on his blog:

      I actually haven’t read that particular one – I only had time to read the 5 reasons post. But I could just swear I saw a similar title, and anyway, his stuff over there is definitely worth checking out.

      • Marty Jones

        May 27, 2010 at 4:15 pm

        Yeah, I just read that post too and there was a link to a blog from Nathan Colquhoun about “why a multi author post will not work” ..

        To a point I do agree with Nathan, but I believe he was writing about multi-author posts in general where it is written and published as it goes along. You could use his blog as a guide on how to not let it fail and how to make it work.

        In my proposition, only when the final draft is finished and approved by the writers as a whole should it be published to the public and include a full list of acknowledgements.

        If people are adult and professional enough it could work. Lets face it, anyone who would want to write a TV series for a living will at some point have to accept and learn to write in a group.

      • thomaschalfant

        May 27, 2010 at 4:26 pm

        Ooops! See, told you I hadn’t read it yet!

        You got that last point right. Got to go though, I’ll be back to talk about this later today..

  84. The Observer

    May 27, 2010 at 3:50 pm

    Really enjoyed this. Also enjoyed that you mentioned how a lot of the excuses for the ending sound a lot like stoner logic. I’ve made the same comparison in some other places I follow – glad it’s not just me that thinks the whole “The show was about learning to let go, man, and you just like, need to learn to let go, man” sounds like a reefer fueled excuse for major plot holes.

    Next time the Cuse and Lindelof combination put a show on the air, count me out before it even comes on.

    The shame in all this is that they really tarnished their own legacy. The flashback story telling device was pure genius, completely novel, and so well suited to the needs of their narrative. Sadly, it’s going to be very easy to forget how compelling and creative the show has been because it completely fizzled and crapped out at the end.

  85. Denise

    May 27, 2010 at 4:58 pm

    I really tried to like the final episode — I even made it most of the way through enjoying the interplay between what I thought were two conjoined realities (at least one of them created by the bomb going off at the end of last season). I was hoping to see some sort of melding of these into a more complete or new balanced reality — one that was really real. But instead, during the last 10 minutes, the full extent of the bait and switch we were subjected to became apparent: a retrograde limbo lala land of happy dead people. Everything that happened on the island, the purpose of the island, none of it really mattered. This was the worst cop-out for a TV show’s finale I’ve ever experienced, given the great potential that was never fulfilled. I’m one of those people who still think plot is an important element of any story. The ‘revelation’ that the off-island world was a simplistic religious sideways pseudo-purgatory left me with my mouth hanging open — they couldn’t end it this way! They just couldn’t! It might as well have been all a dream! Couldn’t they answer at least some of the questions? Not all of them, or even many, but some. Why couldn’t they bring the two worlds together in some fashion? I could see several ways to do so — your idea is particularly interesting. I might as well have been watching ‘Ghost Whisperer.’ And it didn’t really even add up if you accepted the premise of the ending. For instance, why is Aaron a baby in the church — he would have to be significantly older. I demand a Director’s Cut with an alternate ending!

    • Nick B

      May 27, 2010 at 6:39 pm

      I echoed your thoughts completely while watching it. I was pretty much okay with it and was even enjoying the on-island action… until the last 10 minutes. I could probably have forgiven more of the unanswered questions if they had resolved the Sideways world a different way. Sadly though, this *was* the Director’s Cut….

  86. Eltari

    May 27, 2010 at 5:25 pm

    I think you articulated the feelings I’ve developed since the finale. When it ended, everyone else was pissed. I could understand that. Myself I was just dumb-founded.

    A buddy that doesn’t watch was like,”So how was it.” I replied, “I don’t know yet.”

    I think my thoughts were from not having any of my hopes answered. Many of them you brought up and I won’t repeat them. I do have to say, as an almost graduated undergrad physicist, I love your finale. The consequences of parallel universes effecting each other is an awesome concept I truly enjoy (which is why I like Fringe). It would have addressed many of the topics I wanted answered.

    They did a great job drawing in the audience to their world. They punted the ending though. It reminded me of Stephen King’s Dark Tower ending which said that the journey is more important than the ending. Which is crap.

  87. Mariam

    May 27, 2010 at 6:50 pm

    Thank you, thank you, thank you for writing this! This post was more entertaining than the final show…while reading this I didn’t want it to end!

    • thomaschalfant

      May 28, 2010 at 2:43 am

      You’re welcome, you’re welcome, you’re welcome! That’s a fantastic thing to say, and trust me, I get yelled at a lot – I needed it!

      • Jackel

        January 22, 2011 at 11:51 pm

        Your Blog made me laugh to tears and I agree with enjoying that blog more then the finale.

  88. Arborist Mist

    May 27, 2010 at 7:25 pm

    Just want to add, WHY is Charlie on Two and a Half men a sex-pig? Do we know?

    Why is Jack (the wimpy brother) divorced? Do we know?

    Why is Pheobe on “Friends” so weird? Why didn’t they ever explain that?

    How do Cylons reproduce? This shouldn’t be possible. They never explained it in detail.

    How do the ships in V fly? It makes no sense that something so large could just hang still in the air like that. An “blue energy”? How does that work?! That makes no sense! BOOOOO! they never explained the physics behind blue energy in “V”. Bad show! Boooooo!

    Oh and on South Park, they never seemed to explain why people look like they are made of paper. I mean, you’d think someone would notice and say something. They owe it to us to explain why paper!?! And yet whenever they show fire or explosions, they look real! How is this possible?! I want answerssss^%!%^$@%^!$#%^@$

  89. kim

    May 27, 2010 at 7:27 pm

    How did you expect them to give you “answers” to stuff that is make-believe? Islands don’t move in the real world. How would you expect them to “explain” that? Using your imagination for great story telling is what it’s about. Get a job.

    • thomaschalfant

      May 27, 2010 at 10:27 pm

      Um, I didn’t expect real answers Kim. Fictional answers would have been fine.

    • Ryan

      June 2, 2010 at 8:35 pm

      Actually, islands do move. Ever heard of plate tectonics?

  90. Darcy

    May 27, 2010 at 7:39 pm

    you said you didn’t want to pick a fight with anyone who really enjoyed and was satisfied with the way the show ended yet you came across as an asshole who was picking a fight saying obviously you all who hated it were right and you wish you could have been satisfied with the ending well you not only bashed my hometown of Cleveland in your massive rant you did make me angry as someone who really enjoyed the end and the series as a whole. I don’t care if you didn’t like the ending I did and I say not that you didn’t get the show or that you didn’t understand the end I say you didn’t understand that the writers of the show didn’t OWE you anything…they don’t OWE you answers just like they don’t OWE me answers. If they meant for the show be left with unanswered questions then that’s what the show was meant to do…you are bitching about people not explaining to you what they who claim to totally get it got about the series that’s because the entire point of the show is for you to figure it out it’s kind of like one of those mystery novels where you can choose the path of the characters and it tells you to turn to a specific page and you get like 3 different stories in one book depending on which route you take well LOST was similiar in that many of the mysteries were supposed to left with dangling information for YOU (as the smart person you are) to give answers to..the reason this show was so good was because it allowed everyone to come up with their own theories and the point is that even though the show is over you can still come up with theories (yours by the was is a good theory I liked it but I also liked several other theories that were put out on the vast internet) basically you did piss off fans who liked it with your massive rant about how much it sucked and how much you were owed answers to things so get off your soap box and grow a pair dude you’re just like every other person out there who claims that they loved it and is criticizing those who hated it!

  91. KKOmaha

    May 27, 2010 at 8:08 pm

    One word for this mid 30’s TV viewer….


    I learned my lesson 10 years ago and saw this coming from so far away its not funny. What is Chirs Carter doing these days? Probably still counting his money from those last 4 useless seasons!

    • thomaschalfant

      May 27, 2010 at 11:49 pm

      I know EXACTLY what you are talking about. Remember how Skully would still, after meeting literally hundreds of monsters, act like Mulder was being a crazy conspiracy guy?

      Got my own little mini-conspiracy about that show – at first, they called the Smoking Man, Cancer Man. And then suddenly the stopped, and claimed they’d never called him that at all, that he was always The Smoking Man. But I remember a recap episode, they’d show all the characters and their names would be up there in letters, and there he was, Cancer Man.

      My thinking was, a couple a phone calls from a couple of sponsors connected to RJR Nabisco or whatever, and the word Cancer was out of there.

      • JohnMoonlord

        May 28, 2010 at 2:44 pm

        Now X-Files seems to be a topic we all agree on! lol

    • Marty Jones

      May 28, 2010 at 12:57 pm

      I didn’t watch X-files first time around but when they made a few films I wanted to watch them but thought that it would be best to watch the series first.

      well, they should have ended it after Mulder found out his sister was dead. Everything that happend after that was just terrible. the whole thing lost its appeal.

      Then came the movies… again, what a waste. The appeal of the original episodes was lost by the poor ending. I will always remember if for the terrible ending and not for the brilliance of the original series…

      I didn’t get into lost until series three, everyone was talking about it, so I decided to catch up and borrow the box sets of the previous series. I was hooked almost straight away. When one episode ended I was straight onto the next.

      When it got to “through the looking glass”, in my opinion the best single episode of a television series ever, it was a nightmare waiting for the next series….

      I loved the characters, I loved the mystery, the symbolism, the questions it was asking, the discussions it created with friends. I never once thought of it as a TV series that had to be guided by the politics of writers, producers, stroppy actors, I Watched it for what it was presented to me on screen.

      Yes, there are a large amount of questions that was left un-answered, a lot of them did not need any explanation, so I don’t want everything spoon fed to me. I assumed the statues and temples etc were built by a lost civilisation, you didn’t need to know where they came from or what happened to them, not unless it directly impacted on the current story. Other things, like the significance of the the numbers, that really does need explaining in some way, there is a big list of other questions that should have been answered. The whole of season 6 should have been used to tie these ends off.

      Have your spiritual end by all means, but when you look at the series, a lot of it was based on science, the Dharma initiative, The group of people that arrived by helicopter with Daniel Faraday who were going to kill them all, what exactly where they after on the Island? The Island had the power to make peoples ailments go away, or at least suspend them while on the island, but then still allowed others to die? Why? How did the Island select who would live and who would die?

      This and all the other questions will be answered on the next episode of soap!

  92. zack smith

    May 27, 2010 at 8:18 pm

    Awesome article — sums up my feelings well, too. Here’s my hope-against-hope idea, though: the finale we watched, that was the Sideways finale. Once we all work through our feelings on it, and we’re awakened to what a piece of shit it is, we get to see the REAL finale.

    • Mariam

      May 28, 2010 at 2:40 am


  93. Louis

    May 27, 2010 at 8:27 pm

    I did like the ending, but yeah they definitely could have answered more questions along the way. Throughout the last season I read a lot of recaps and comments after each episode, and I can’t say I really came across any where they guessed correctly that the sideways world was purgatory. I think most of us assumed that it was created by the bomb, or that it somehow had connection where characters in the sideways world could somehow affect the actual timeline. So in that sense I think that it wasn’t a predictable ending.

    However, there is definitely a case for the show being primarily about the characters. I mean come on, huge portions of episodes, sometimes nearly close to entire episodes were spent on backstories, flashbacks, flash-forwards-basically anything to do with the characters off of the island. Think about Season 1, which most of us will agree was excellent. What are the major plot points of season 1 really? The plane crashes, theres a smoke monster and Others, Locke finds the beachcraft and digs up the hatch, michael and gang build a raft, it gets destroyed, they build it again. Then the season finale comes and Locke opens the hatch, Michael and gang launch the raft and walt gets taken. SEASON OVER. The on-island events are really pretty basic and span many episodes. They present a lot of mystery yes, but much of it is about the characters. And even some of the mysteries are character mysteries i.e. kate’s crime, how Locke got in the wheel-chair, etc. I mean yeah theres Adam and Eve, the polar bear and many other minor mysteries of which many were explained, but really the plot was very drawn. I mean, think about this: Season 1 ends with Locke looking down the hatch after it’s opened, and they don’t even enter it until the END of the next episode. They even did episodes showing the same events as other episodes from different perspectives so we could understand the characters better.

    All in all, I don’t the problem was necessarily the ending. I think they could have kept the ending, but throughout season 6 answered more about the island, because everything was real anyway. If they did that, I think the ending would have been much better received.

  94. apparentlystupid

    May 27, 2010 at 8:27 pm

    so wait.. Im not an idiot for not liking it? Im not going to hell for not being spiritual enough to “get it”? pfwooo that was a close one… I had read so many blogs and posts telling me what an a hole I am for not liking the finale that I really was starting to question my own intelligence… thank god I dont have to go buy a helmet and a coloring book… this was well written and exactly how many of feel brotha… namaste you SOB

  95. Michele

    May 27, 2010 at 8:31 pm

    I am with you on every point 100%. What a great wrap-up to everything I felt after the finale. Kudos to you!

  96. Shameka

    May 27, 2010 at 8:50 pm

    Your open letter was both elegant and on point. I can’t say that I was surprised by the ending in my heart I knew there was no way they could do an adequate job of trying up all of the loose ends they created in past seasons. I will say that from season 2 on my theory had always been that they were all dead and in purgatory. Even with that “prior knowledge” the ending brought me no solace. Your version of the ending was great and as a undergrad Chem major my scientific side would have been satisfied with that. The final season of Lost completely turned me off to most “series-like” program. As much as I enjoyed V as a child I don’t have the emotional strength to “fall in love” with another fantasy based series. Bring on the next season of “The Good Wife”!

    • thomaschalfant

      May 27, 2010 at 11:45 pm

      Yeah, you know, I wish that they had made a show for both the science and the faith crowds. You can have all the symbolism and keep the practicality intact. What’s The Good Wife – never heard of it?

      • Shameka

        June 1, 2010 at 1:37 pm

        The Good Wife airs on CBS and is based on the whole scandal ridden politician and the wife who “sticks by his side” scenario. Very good show. Stars Chris Noth aka Mr. Big and Julianna Marguiles.

  97. Shameka

    May 27, 2010 at 9:00 pm

    I thought your open letter was both eloquent and on point. To say I was disappointed with the finale would be obvious. Also obvious was the fact that it would be impossible for the writers to tie up all the loose ends they created even with the 150 plus mins they had.
    Was it just me or did anyone find the Lost “inspired” Target commercials condescending? It was as if even Target was in on the joke.

    • thomaschalfant

      May 27, 2010 at 11:42 pm

      Yes, I was getting uneasy all season long. They kept introducing NEW plotlines, NEW characters. Like the end of a mystery novel, and suddenly there’s twelve more suspects. And then they tell you, aw, man, you figure out who did what. It’s art!

      Yes, to the Target question. Good lord!

      • Shameka

        June 1, 2010 at 1:39 pm

        Sorry for the double post. I didn’t think the first one went through. ;0)

  98. Mike

    May 27, 2010 at 9:15 pm

    Hey Tom… positive way of looking at it….if they had tied up all the loose ends and answered all the questions, you wouldn’t have a blog post with 164 comments to it.

    • thomaschalfant

      May 27, 2010 at 11:40 pm

      Got that right. This thing got SWARMED today, and the traffic is still climbing. A few trolls, but that’s pretty much beggin for trolls up there..

      • Nick B

        May 27, 2010 at 11:58 pm

        I could be partly to blame… I posted a link early on in the comments of the CNN entertainment blog report about the ‘epilogue’ on the LOST DVD in response to the You-Didn’t-Get-It crowd there.

      • thomaschalfant

        May 28, 2010 at 12:42 am

        Nick – it’s definitely not blame, man, thank you! Keep posting it, I really appreciate it!

  99. carolyn

    May 27, 2010 at 9:19 pm

    I was one of those who defended the finale but the more I think (and read) about it this week, the more I too am frustrated about all of the unanswered plot points- but I wanted to tell you that you can’t just sit down and watch Fringe- if you are interested- you MUST see the previous episodes- starting with last year… sorry- if you don’t do that then it will be meaningless at this point… you have the summer to catch up- at least with the first season- and then maybe you can see the second season on their website… they had the finale last week… I like it better than Xfiles- they answered questions alot faster and although they strayed with the weird science of the week- all of those tied into the larger storyline for the most part…FANTASTIC acting by the actor who plays Walter- I would watch it just because of him!

    • thomaschalfant

      May 27, 2010 at 11:39 pm

      Lot of people telling me to watch Fringe – I’m hoping for a marathon of it that I can DVR, because I’m not on Netflix anymore. Back in the day, X-Files was THE show, but you know, that one SERIOUSLY didn’t know where it was going.

      I think that knowing how Abrams is – it’s him again, right? – I think that maybe I can get used to him like David Foster Wallace, go in with the right expectations. I appreciate the comment, and by all means, don’t get enraged about Lost if you can avoid it, not on my account!

  100. tlacuilopilo

    May 27, 2010 at 9:39 pm

    I think I will cherish in my mind your own version of the finale. I also felt exactly as you describe it. I also believed many answers wouldn’t be answered because of how much time they spent in other things. During the finale, I was always checking the time and saying to myself “When will the answers come, they’re just wasting time”. I was looking at the time as it passed and realized that we would never see what we expected.

    One question Tom, did they come up with an explanation for the polar bear?

    • Marty Jones

      May 27, 2010 at 11:02 pm

      I belive the polar bear came from the other Island.

      The cages where Sawyer and Kate were locked up in, that whole area looked like another Dharma experiment. I assumed thats where the polar bear came from…

      once it had eaten all the other animals and swam over to the other island!

      • Bazil

        May 28, 2010 at 12:54 pm

        Reading between the lines, the polar bears were there to control and use the frozen donkey wheel. There were some simple tests in the cages that were used to teach the bears.

        When Locke moved the wheel he ended up in Tunisia (I think) and this is exactly where Charlotte found a polar bear carcass in another episode.

        Getting back to ‘THE END’. Whilst it wasnt what I expected, I quite enjoyed it. In my opinion they shouldnt have wasted time with the flash sideways scenes and should have used that time to answer some of the other questions. I think most people would have been happy with watching a few of the survivors leave on a jet plane whilst dying hero jack watches them leave with a smile on his face. Why waste half of season 6 showing us what happened to them AFTER they died, who cares, dead is dead right?

        I think that most of us enjoyed every single episode since the show started six years ago and to be disapointed with the finale and then say that the whole show was shit is being a bit silly. Every week I anticipated the show like a 6 yr old child anticipates christmas day and every week I was beyond satisfied

      • thomaschalfant

        May 28, 2010 at 1:45 pm

        I am approximately 500% in love with your polar bear idea!

        Yes, I anticipated it like a 6 year old also – might be why I threw a fit like one!

    • thomaschalfant

      May 27, 2010 at 11:35 pm

      Wasn’t there an artic base where they dug up a polar bear skeleton with a dharma badge in it? The redhead British woman, who Farraday was in love with found it? Or was that a desert? Can’t remember..

  101. Ray

    May 27, 2010 at 9:52 pm

    Two words: negative capability. Google it.

    I think the ending was quite beautiful. It appears to me that people who are consumed with a need for answers are afraid of uncertainty. For me, the mysteries of the Island are all beautiful, and meant to be unresolved. The show is about a magical island that moves through time and heals people. You really want logical answers behind that? I thought the writers did an excellent job of resolving the characters who stumbled upon this enigma. That’s why I loved the finale.

    • zack smith

      May 27, 2010 at 10:30 pm

      Would you have loved the finale if they didn’t resolve the characters’ paths?

      • Ray

        May 28, 2010 at 10:17 am

        Probably not. But if the writers had ignored the characters and instead resolved the mythology in an epic way, then I might have been pleased. But only if the answers were revealed in a fascinating way, not like the answer to the whispers. That was so anti-climatic.

  102. Ted

    May 27, 2010 at 9:57 pm

    If you assume that the ending was bad, then what happened?

    The writers didn’t have the skills to do a better ending? Not likely

    All writers got lazy or distracted or sick and wanted to get it over with? Maybe, but not likely

    The writers had to bend to the realities of the TV medium -cost, shooting time, showing time, casting? They are experienced in the medium and should have been able to forecast what the problems would be.

    The writers were interfered with, pressured by powers that be, and didn’t have the power to defend their project? I don’t know. It did seem that the show took a sharp turn. If so, we will hear about it after a while.

    If none of these situations existed, then the writers did the show they wanted to. They used the show to experiment with a new TV art form or they wanted to say something about the big themes of love, forgiveness and even perhaps the hope of an afterlife.

    I have a theory that while they were making a show about the island or about Jack’s transition (or whatever you think), they were also making a show about their own writing and producing process in the TV medium and making the audience something like a co-creator. If I watch the series again, I will watch it from that point of view. (Was blowing up the Black Rock, for example, a statement about writing decisions?)

    I hope the writers at some point in the future, speak honestly about what they were up to with this show.

  103. James

    May 27, 2010 at 10:10 pm

    Ha! So well written! Great tone, great pace, really enjoyable reading… as for myself – I have been feeling cheated, but afraid I was missing something..

    In the end I think the ‘Comic-Book’ plot lines and mysteries are what kept we watching all this time – It is a shame that these were not brought under some universal theory before the shows end.

  104. Candice

    May 27, 2010 at 10:29 pm

    Count me in as someone who thought every second of the finale was kick a$$ and beautiful until the last 10 minutes. Then, I had some moments of WTF? But, the next day, after I had thought about it alot, I began to love it more and more. My WTF morphed into complete adoration and thinking it was a really lovely send off. It didn’t bother me that they died in the end because, while we don’t know how some of them went on to live their lives and eventually die, I really loved the idea that nothing else any of them did meant more to them than the island experiences. So much so that they were not able to move on until they were all together. And I counted myself lucky to have been witness to the entirety of those experiences.
    The producers and cast members have long said that this show was always more about the characters than the island itself. I know you used that line as one of your points but, they’ve been saying it for a long time so I’m not sure why it’s such a surprise to so many that the finale reflected that. Yes, they threw all of these questions and crazy storylines at us. But, I personally never expected to get a “Here’s what it’s all about”, step-by-step explanation. That was especially true this season when the “characters are more important” speak seemed to be thrown into overdrive. As the season went on, and each episode seemed to pose more questions than it addressed, I knew for certain there was no way they could ever wrap it up in the time they had left.
    Also, even if they had wrapped it up in the exact way you described, or any of the other 100 ways they could have gone, there would have been a group of people that was completely enraged over it. There was no way they were ever going to make everyone happy.
    The show has always hit me on much more of an emotional level than a sci-fi level. I have stuck around all these years only because I love these characters so much, and never because questions like, “Hey, what’s up with that Walt kid, anyway?” kept me up at night.
    Sure, I wonder about a lot things. But I heard an interview with one of the producers several years ago and they said something to the effect of, “You can’t ask ‘why the island?’. You just have to accept that it is, and move on. It’s like asking “What is The Force?’. That always stuck with me so I chose to just let the story wash over and never question it too much. “Whatever happened, happened” to quote Mr. Faraday. Trust me, it has made it so much more enjoyable than if I wrung my hands over every little thing. Not saying you did that but I know plenty who did. Also not saying my friends and I didn’t have many discussions revolving around whats and ifs and whys. Of course, we did. And we had a blast talking about it and theorizing. But that was never my main reason for thinking this show was (and still is) the best show to have ever aired on television, so I was ok with not knowing.
    I do have to say, hearing today that there will be a 14 minute epilogue included on the DVD set that shows some of what occurred between Jack’s death and the end of the episode thrills me to no end. At least there is something to look forward to and the story isn’t completely over yet. I’m sure whatever is included in the epilogue still won’t satisfy those that hated the finale but maybe it will bring more of a sense of closure.

  105. frank

    May 27, 2010 at 10:32 pm

    Thank you!!! It wasn’t quite the autistic child staring into the snowglobe that ended St. Elsewhere, but it was pretty damn close. This was a really bad way to end one of the most convoluted shows in TV history and there’s really no way in getting around that.

  106. Marion Ake

    May 27, 2010 at 10:42 pm

    Somebody else who made the “Dallas” connection! But it’s not just Bobby in the shower. It’s as if Pam had dreamed the season in which JR had been shot. Can you imagine the outrage if THAT season had been a dream?

    I’d hoped that the ending would be like “The 6th Sense” and would have me immediately going back through the whole series now that I had The Knowledge. Instead, I’m left wishing I’d never bothered in the first place. 😦

  107. Lance

    May 27, 2010 at 10:52 pm

    You summed up my feelings regarding the finale very well. I wish you’d written the finale episode.

    I really hoped this show was going somewhere. When I saw the last ten minutes of the show I just could not believe it. They just decided to drop everything–they explained nothing–and the few “answers” they provided were nonsense! What is the smoke monster? He’s a monster make of smoke that was created when a dead man got shoved down a hole filled with glowing light.

    That’s the quality of their answers–the few we even received.

  108. B

    May 27, 2010 at 11:10 pm

    Don’t you see what happened? The show created in its audience the exact conflict that was at the heart of the show: science vs. faith.

    The “faith” audience is more like Locke from the early seasons, accepting what was given to him and generating his own meaning for events that occurred based on what he believed was true. The audience that falls into that category looks for the answer and has faith that it’s there even it’s not readily apparent.

    The “science” audience is like Jack from the early seasons, not believing anything that he didn’t see with his own eyes. That audience doesn’t accept an answer unless it’s presented clear and outright.

  109. Louis

    May 27, 2010 at 11:14 pm

    There were many questions they didn’t answer no doubt, and it would have been nice for some of the more important ones to get answered. However, some questions it isn’t necessarily integral to the plot to know, and maybe it’s better with no explanation than a terrible one. I mean for something like “How can Jacobs mirror in the lighthouse see places in the outside world?” they would obviously just answer it by ascribing some magical property to it, I mean there’s really nothing else you can do there. As far as the island is concerned, we just have to accept that for us the story starts with The Mother. Obviously there were people there before her who created the statue and the plug, etc, but we just have to accept that those things are there.

    But I think that the finale was a decent enough ending. I mean basically, Jacob mad a mistake during the time of Across the Sea, and created the smoke monster. He had to prevent MIB from leaving, but he knew eventually that MIB would find a way to kill him. So he brought candidates to the island to replace him so that once MIB did kill him there would still be protection, hence why they are there. In the finally, MIB was finally killed, hence redeeming the mistake that created the entire chain of events, the light is able to be turned back on, and Hurley and Ben protect it for many years afterwards. The sideways timeline is interesting because it gave them a way to provide closure to every character’s story at the same time. This way you don’t really have to wonder about what happens to Kate, Sawyer, Lapidus, etc after the on-island events because we know the final outcome. One of the problems of a finale is that it’s the last time you get to see the characters, and so nothing after the events of the show are explained, i.e. what happened to Tony Soprano? But this is unique because there is no story to tell after the events of the finale, because every character “moves on” together and so you don’t have to wonder.

    All in all, the finale solved the primary problem of the show that caused the chain of events, the villian was destroyed, every event on the island was validated as real (which I think most people wanted), and there was a happy ending for the characters that everyone loved. Yes we’re missing some answers, but I’ve enjoyed going along for the ride very much.

  110. Hubert

    May 27, 2010 at 11:15 pm

    Wow. Well said, with the passion and intellectual frustration many of us are feeling. Rock on, my friend.

  111. Paul

    May 27, 2010 at 11:37 pm

    I think all the answers that you are looking to get from the ending can be answered in the second to last episode, where everybody thought there was a lot of significance to Kate’s name being crossed off, but Jacob told her “It’s just chalk on a wall, the job’s yours if you want it”.
    I loved that line, because it seemed like it would be important to the plot and not to look at all the little clues they were giving to be important, some were just there to keep the story interesting.
    I would agree that I would have liked to see a few more answers, but I thought they answered enough and on a whole I liked the ending. It was better than the ending to most series.
    I also thought it was interesting that a lot of the show turned out to be flashback sequences, but on emotions, not on dialog, like you would see from a lot of finales. I really liked that.

  112. M.R. in L.A.

    May 27, 2010 at 11:39 pm

    The way in which you are missing the point is this: Lost was not an Agatha Christie mystery but rather an allegorical critique of the way in which religion is practiced.
    Many who boisterously proclaim their ‘faith’ have little and instead manufacture false certainty which proves invariably incorrect. This was demonstrated by numerous characters within the show. The finale illustrated that it’s only in letting go of petty insistence on detailed explanation and understanding and by surrendering to whatever may come do you gain true knowledge and reward.
    Your nitpicking of the finale only heightens the entire point of the ending and for that I thank you.

  113. D-Lo

    May 28, 2010 at 12:33 am


  114. Chris

    May 28, 2010 at 1:13 am

    Two things: Your comment about Eko is incorrect. The producers wanted Eko to stay on the show, the actor though did not care for Hawaii. It’s hard to blame them for an actor basically telling them, I dont care about this show, I can’t take Hawaii and I need to leave.

    Second, your entitled to your own opinion. If you wanted a show that laid out very clearly everything dealing with mythology on this show then yes, you were screwed. Some major things were given direct answers, others were left open to interpretation. Some would say its a cheap out, others will say that the best mysteries in life are so grand because there is no clear explanation. You view the island and it’s mysteries as the main point of interest, while the producers, and most likely a large a majority, viewed our characters as the thing that mattered most. I’m sorry you didnt like the finale, and hopefully this bonus DVD content will answer some of your questions, but in the end I hope you enjoy the majority of the ride of Lost and may give it any viewing once some time has passed. I know I promised to do so before the finale aired (luckily for me I enjoyed the episode).

    • thomaschalfant

      May 28, 2010 at 1:19 am

      Yes, I definitely admit – I’m no journalist. The Eko thing was something I heard, but my point’s still valid, if they had him in mind as the anti-Locke, they probably should have nailed down the Hawaii preference early on, and the fact that such an important character was disposable to them tells me, there was more wandering going on than they implied.

      Majority? I don’t know about that. Thousands of folks have showed up here, and the majority are with me. But again, no need to be sorry – you’re not being insulting or anything, and I respect your views because of that. The poison was for a certain breed of online bully-type, not necessarily for the show, and certainly not for a reasonable fan like yourself.

      I’ve said a few times on this thread, if I could write this again, maybe I’d ratchet it down a little, in terms on the anger, but it was the anger I was trying to get rid of. Not crazy about the negativity in hindsight, but like any character on Lost, I’m entitled to my own checkered past.

      Thanks for commenting, and I’m truly glad you got what you wanted from the show. I keep saying that I wouldn’t want to sit through it again, but you’re right. The truth is, I probably will.

  115. Denise

    May 28, 2010 at 1:39 am

    It might be interesting to take a poll on reactions to the ending of LOST, in which participants are asked several questions concerning their religious beliefs, and perhaps political beliefs — the result might be illuminating.

    • thomaschalfant

      May 28, 2010 at 1:59 am

      See, this is a really good one, because that’s about how we’re lining up. You know how in a bar, circa 1am, religion debates can erupt that are completely polarizing and combative? I’m noticing the same type of fissure here – and it was commenters like yourself and a few others that pointed it out.

      In life, I’m not a religious man, but I’m certainly not a true atheist. If you tell me God made the world in six days, that’s all right with me, unless you start yelling at me about evolution. And that’s the tone of this debate, isn’t it?

      I like to think of it not as, man of science or man of faith, but as, a man can have both. And I thought this show was going to do that. When it didn’t, I felt cheated, and maybe folks assumed it was because I didn’t get the spiritual side, but it wasn’t. It was just that I wanted both.

      I think you are right Denise. In fact, there’s a way to do a poll right here on WordPress, but I have to find some time to get int here and figure it out.

      Thanks for your very insightful suggestion!

  116. t3hdow

    May 28, 2010 at 1:44 am

    Tom, I got to say that even as a supporter of the ending, I appreciate your perspective. I’d even go so far and say that I could’ve easily hated the ending with my yo-yo attitude throughout the series. The second half of season two and the opening third of season three frustrated me immensely, and the recent episode “Across the Sea” made me think why I hell I’m still watching the show. But for every dud, there are brilliant installments like “Through the Looking Glass” that leave me in such awe that all is forgiven, and I won’t ever stop watching until the end.

    But to me, that’s the beauty of the Lost experience, and it unveiled itself completely when I witnessed the final scene with Jack on the island (obviously the most transformed character through the series). Lost was akin to living through a religious experience, even with the supernatural and sci-fi elements all around the place to distract us. My logical side kept nagging at me to stop and smell the BS. It’s also why I hold no grudges to people who gave up on Lost anytime after season one. It asks for a lot more patience than most shows, and even sticking with it doesn’t guarantee future enjoyment (something that the more egotistical end of the Heroes fanbase also learned pretty fast).

    Still, my emotional end wanted to believe and by the end, Lost gave me my just reward. Never have I received such a religious experience like that in my life. I’ve never completely bought into Christianity, even when I was a little kid, and even wrote an essay mere weeks earlier about it’s nothing more than superficial performance. How ironic that I received more spiritual enligtenment from a TV show instead of the Southern Baptist church I grew up in the very morning before the series finale. Lost’s ending challenged my increasingly cynical perspective in religion and spirituality, and I feel all the better for it.

    I also liked the ending for the simple fact that some mysteries don’t need to be answered. Yeah, that may be an excuse to cover the writers’ ass, but I see it like this. Remember George Orwell’s 1984 and how it ended? By the end, the readers may have had an idea with how Oceania (unintentional pun alert!) formed, but no one truly knew how the highest rulers from the Inner Party ran the damn place. Yet the sense of not knowing left readers even more paranoid about the already endlessly scary Oceania. Stripping the place down to the core only degrades the horror.

    When Lost ended, the island remained as mysterious as it was when the series started, and will continue to be so until the end of time. And no matter how many people tried to uncover its secrets, they died trying, and yet even with that, there were just as many people willing to die for it. The island is a personification of faith and all of its enlightened and dangerous implications (like the more dangerous decisions committed by John Locke, and like when The Others committed genocide in the name of Jacob…who was an oblivious person who simply got goaded into protecting the place for several millennia). Answering everything would’ve ruined the island’s enigmatic edge. Case in point? “Across the Sea”. A lot of what was told felt utterly unnecessary, and the answers felt deluded (especially the Adam/Eve statues). We all could’ve lived without that one.

    One last thing before I stop. The entire making-things-up-as-they-go-along element, while true, feels misunderstood at times. While this should not be used as an excuse for huge narrative shortcomings, it should be noted that not everything the Lost writers had planned went into fruition, as you mentioned with Eko. Conversely, if it wasn’t for the superb acting abilities of Michael Emerson, we would have no Benjamin Linus, and he would’ve died as Henry Gale as Cuse and Lindelof planned. It’s also worth noting that the TV medium complicates long term plans, since studio executives have as much hand with impeding the show as the actors and (in the case of Nikki and Paulo) the fans, with spaced out scheduling and padding and stuff like that. There was also the pesky writers strike ruining a true flashback for Rousseau during season 4 as well. The magic of Lost came out as much from planning as accidental circumstances, so in some sense, making-things-up-as-they-go-along isn’t entirely a bad thing.

    So yeah, that should cover my explanation, and I much prefer the counter-comments to come from Lost fans who watched through the entire series as well. Better that than the mountain of 24 fans who’ve been spewing idiotic hatred towards Lost for the last few days, simply out of jealousy because the press didn’t show adoration for its finale (and I say this as a 24 fan who was disappointed with its tepid series finale). Now THAT’S the definition of petty.

    • thomaschalfant

      May 28, 2010 at 2:03 am

      I used to LOVE 24, and I am very capable of getting into the action flick/pulp novel mindset of shows like that, but I fell off it. Personally, I think television and books and films are for enjoying – if you didn’t enjoy it, that’s fine, if you did, that’s also fine.

      In a way, i guess I’m the guy from A Fish Called Wanda – don’t call me stupid! So maybe I went a little crazy, but it sounds like a lot of people needed it, and definitely, so did I.

      Your post up there – which is really a blog, sitting here in the other blog!- is insightful and respectful and I’m glad you posted it.

      • t3hdow

        May 28, 2010 at 5:12 am

        Heh. I get the whole “you type novel length posts” comments a lot. If I spent the time I type in message board for short stories and novels, I’d have hundreds by now. XD

        As for 24, despite my spat with the fans recently, I wouldn’t have discovered the joys of primetime TV without it (along with Lost, Prison Break, Dexter and The Wire), so I owe it at least that much. But even during the better seasons, 24 can be wildly erratic and suffer from lazy writing, notably in seasons 6 and 8. But when it’s good, it’s awesome (like the near-perfect season 5).

        I also agree that people are free to enjoy what they like without mockery, but the internet makes that a huge challenge sometimes, especially with Lost. It feels like every non-fan HAS to prove their show is better by picking apart Lost instead of simply ignoring it, and it gets infuriating after a while. I bet some people would use this blog entry to rationalize their hate for Lost, even though they hardly watched the show AND when you clearly are against those kind of attacks. We all need to agree to disagree, and leave it at that.

        But of course, this is the internet, so it’s expected. Oh well…

        *P.S. I meant to write skeletons for the Adam/Eve thing, but I’m sure everyone caught that faux pas

      • thomaschalfant

        May 28, 2010 at 12:42 pm

        Season 5 – that’s a good, specific tip. I’ll get a hold of it. I’m going to have to sign up for Netflix again.

        And yes, I can imagine being on your side of the debate could get every bit as frustrating.

      • t3hdow

        May 29, 2010 at 3:37 am

        Yeah, it sucks, but meh. What can you do? I try to grin and bear it, but on my more ornery moments, my replies turn into something like this blog post. XD

        Oh and one more thing before I stop annoying you with my eccentricity. While the self-contained nature of 24 makes it easy to season hop, seasons 4-6 have more plot run over than the other ones. Season 5 is great on its own, but loses some narrative edge for viewers who didn’t at least watch season 4 (which is also a good season by itself). Plenty of characters and subplots make the transition over from season 4, so I recommend starting there, then watching season 5. Too bad season 6, despite starting with great promise, fails to live up to the quality of those two.

        Anyway, have fun with your post-Lost life, like the rest of us. 🙂

  117. ecossie possie

    May 28, 2010 at 2:14 am

    The Polar Bears were a Dharma experiment to allegedly see if they could be repopulated to warmer climes or perhaps survive global warming .They were also used like time travelling bunnys an one exited in the desert Libia?or somewere an was discovered by Redhead Rachel?It had travelled 40 years back in time though It exsited at same place as Locke an Ben however In my opinion none of that realy happened as all Dharma Folk like everyone else on that Island were dead.An simply working there way foward or backward a levell untill ready to move on .The sideways or limboverse was simply another aspect of there journy to enlightenment.As was the oceanics six of island jaunt.I may be in a minorty of one but it works for me

    • thomaschalfant

      May 29, 2010 at 3:45 am

      I love this one, with the polar bears/ time travel/ freezing cold wheel angle.

  118. ecossie possie

    May 28, 2010 at 2:21 am

    By the way Fringe rocks. An If you are pissed of at the ending of Lost then try watching the original British version of the prisoner..That goes down in history as the worst nonsense ending of any show ever.Not only did it not answer anything It stuck two fingers up at you an laughed at you for even expecting them to resolve the plot.

    • t3hdow

      May 29, 2010 at 3:25 am

      To be fair, this was caused by creator fatigue. The Prisoner from what I hear was only supposed to be six episodes, but was extended to seventeen. By the end of production, creator Patrick McGoohan was so exhausted from having to make so many more episodes than he intended, he rushed the ending. Blame the executives on that one.

  119. Alison

    May 28, 2010 at 3:22 am

    Wow. Just.. wow. Up to your theories on what happened, it’s like you took the words from my mouth. No joke. This is exactly what my husband and I have been saying since Sunday to everyone who’s like “you didn’t get it – the sideways was purgatory, man!” I GET THAT. I’M NOT RETARDED. I especially liked your reference to the Emperor’s New Clothes. Well done.

    And let’s not forget the ones who are like “it wasn’t about the island, it was about the character arcs”. Really? Because then why did they make such a big fuss about Walt being “special” and then never go back to that? And what about the fact that Alan Dale said he never knew if his character was evil or not? Not to mention that I’m still not sure if “man in black” was evil or if Jacob was good.. and the list goes on of incomplete arcs.

    And your ending? It brought a tear to my eye. It’s perfect. It’s absolutely perfect. Brilliant. Seriously. I hope the writers see this and feel like idiots for not seeing that most amazingly perfect storyline that would answer so many of the questions we all had. If that had been how it ended, I would have been jumping for joy at the end. No, really.

    Instead, I just think of how I was cheated out of over 120 hours, and how before I was telling people “you should watch LOST.. get the DVDs and start watching it, it’s amazing”, and now I’d say “don’t bother wasting your time, it’s not worth it at all” – the finale was that disappointing, that I can’t even give credit to any of the episodes before that for making it worth it.

    Thank you for writing this. I’ll be sure to send it to everyone I know that watched the show, whether they liked the ending or not.

  120. Scott

    May 28, 2010 at 5:06 am

    Thank you Thomas. LOVE your parallel universe theory, exactly what I was hoping for and so sorely missed. I am reposting this to everyone I can. Really well said.

    • thomaschalfant

      May 29, 2010 at 3:46 am

      Thank you, and thank you for reposting, and thank you for commenting!

  121. Mike

    May 28, 2010 at 7:33 am

    Am I the only one who thinks it glaringly obvious that the ending the writers originally had was for the island to be purgatory, but too many viewers figured it out so they had to change it? Then they created this “flash sideways” idea and used that to be purgatory, pretending like that was the plan all along.

    Anyway, excellent rant, thank you for expressing so well what so many of us realize. If I hear one more person say “it’s ambiguous because life is ambiguous” I think I’m going to lose it. No, I think I’ll just direct them to this blog instead, actually. So my blood pressure thanks you.

    • thomaschalfant

      May 29, 2010 at 3:47 am

      Yeah, Purgatory was a common suggestion. And the ambiguous thing – it’s like, you could show a two hour spot of a guy mowing his lawn and say, “Yeah, but in life, people have to mow their lawns, you know.”

      You’re welcome!

  122. Denise

    May 28, 2010 at 2:14 pm

    I guess my biggest regret about the series is that the writers could have actually tied all of the plot elements together. It really wouldn’t have been that difficult — it could have been done in several ways — for instance, they could have gone with the idea of melding the two alternate realities (Tom, your take on this was excellent). It would not have answered every question, but it would have given us something more substantial to talk about, and I doubt that as many folks would have been disappointed.

    • thomaschalfant

      May 28, 2010 at 4:30 pm

      Yes, me too. It seems like all of the symbolism and the themes could have been left intact, and still wrapped up the tangible craziness. You know, I’d been thinking about that idea, but I wrote that letter in about an hour and a half, and that was the first time I really tried to articulate it. I wound up really liking it, too, as a starting point for tying the characters together. Originally, it wasn’t even meant as a literal here’s-how-they-should-have-done-it idea, but more of just a demonstration that no, I’m not totally dim, and yes, I bothered to think about it.

      A student of physics showed up earlier – he liked it, too. And speaking of that, I figured that’s what Farraday was all about, until they kind of dropped him.

  123. Mary

    May 28, 2010 at 3:54 pm

    Write it and we will buy it Thomas.

    • thomaschalfant

      May 29, 2010 at 3:48 am

      I think, I’ll write something else – buy that, okay?

  124. Steve

    May 28, 2010 at 4:15 pm

    Here’s the analogy I’ve been using to describe Lost: a genre-bending murder mystery novel, which, instead of revealing who the killer is at the end, gets at what’s TRULY important — telling us which of the characters end up going to heaven.

    A little about me: I don’t read people’s blogs, and I definitely used to do what I later learned could be called the “smug vegan thing” about it. I loved this Lost post, so, without thinking, I read the introductory blog post and loved that, too. At that point, I came to the realization that if I read another one and loved that, I would become someone that reads some stranger’s blog, so I was completely hoping it would suck.

    I read the time traveler post, and now I’m a blog reader. I guess what I’m trying to say is, thanks for ruining my life.

    • thomaschalfant

      May 28, 2010 at 4:27 pm

      Well, man, I’m not sure I’m with you about what’s truly important about a murder mystery, but genre-bending? No doubt.

      Mine’s a weird sort of blog, just writing something every day, usually fiction. When most people write fiction, and want published, they kind of view each piece as something valuable they should sell. I’m just giving it away and hoping that it’s like crack – in your case, awesome, I’m your new crack dealer!

      I don’t usually rant about TV shows, but after this one and the incredbile response, I’d be crazy not to start. But I will say, I’m going to try and stay positive. I meant to insult some people, but I can see that I ended up insulting some people I really didn’t mean to.

      I really appreciate your post and I really appreciate your reading the rest of my stuff. And as for ruining your life – you’re welcome. Any time you want to drop a comment on one of them, by all means, even if it’s because you run across one you hate – I’ve definitely got it coming.

      Thanks again for reading, Steve. I won’t tell anyone, if you don’t, though, so you can keep doing the smug vegan thing.

      • Steve

        May 28, 2010 at 6:21 pm

        I was definitely being sarcastic about the “what’s truly important” part — if I’ve invested my time reading a murder mystery (which I actually wouldn’t… but for the sake of the example, let’s assume that I would), the producers of Lost might not believe this, but I actually WOULD like to know who committed the murder, perhaps even more than I would want a hastily thrown together, pie-in-the-sky, feel-good commentary on the afterlife.

        I’ve read 10-12 of your posts at this point, most of them very different in subject matter, but each with a unique, interesting perspective. My humble suggestion would be to resist the temptation to chase clicks with TV show rants — what you’ve got here is great. Obviously people cared about the ending to Lost, so you picked up traffic in that way, but (I think) what’s made this post resonate with so many people is your ability to put the way they feel into words in a way that they can’t, and that is what will keep some of us around, and get us to spread the word.

        Though I didn’t read most of the comments on this page, from your response that you “meant to insult some people, but … ended up insulting some people [you] really didn’t mean to,” I can only infer that the second group of people took it the wrong way. The post clearly states that it is aimed not at people that enjoyed the ending based on some deep understanding that the rest of us missed, but rather at those that feel the need to denigrate those of us that don’t share their (misguided) belief. It’s a little ironic that people that claim to have advanced skills of comprehension were unable to comprehend the paragraph that explicitly stated that you weren’t talking about them. I guess what I’m trying to say is: don’t apologize to fools for writing intelligently, and keep up the good work!

      • thomaschalfant

        May 29, 2010 at 3:26 am

        See, me not noticing the sarcasm is pretty funny. I was truly trying to get my mind around the idea that maybe someone might think that’s what’s important in a mystery novel.

        Yes, I’d agree, I’m not going to force any TV rants – in fact, I would prefer to rant as infrequently as possible, especially about television. But sometimes, that’s what’s on my mind, so.. Who knows.

        It would be an understatement to say, I hope to see your comments more often. If you have any more suggestions, by all means – no need to be humble about them. I think that one about TV was one I probably had to have someone come right out and tell me.

  125. Rishabh

    May 28, 2010 at 5:30 pm

    I read your letter and after five days since THE END was aired I felt ‘peace’, I’ve been an avid viewer of LOST watching it religiously from last 6 years and still couldnt believe that this is the way it ended…In the last episode they used “Let Go’ so many times I started to wonder if it was for true lost fans like us the writers were pointing at..and asking to “let Go’ coz you’ll never find the answers…

    • thomaschalfant

      May 29, 2010 at 3:28 am

      I remember that I got chills when the Woman said something about how “all of your questions will only lead to more questions.”

  126. ecossie possie

    May 28, 2010 at 6:38 pm

    Charlote was the redhead that discovered the polar bear in the desert not as I said Rachel.Anyway to all you that kinnda wanted a S F ending an think im a moron for beleiveing they were all dead.Explain this in season 5,The off Island Lostees in there atempts to return to the Island were drawn to Eloise Hawking at the church underneath she revealed a Dharma station,They called this the Lamp Post she said A giant swinging pendulum called the lamp post?Makes no sense however.A lamp post is a pole to support a LIGHT.Happens to be situated underneath the very church were our Lostees are shown there path into the light

    • thomaschalfant

      May 29, 2010 at 3:23 am

      I like this one, and I don’t think you’re a moron. I noticed it was the same church, but I didn’t think of the lamp post/LIGHT connection, for some reason. Well done.

  127. kristen

    May 28, 2010 at 6:49 pm

    LOVED your assessment. I’m pretty smart, not a brain surgeon, but still, pretty smart…and I enjoyed the ending of LOST, but that’s because I suspended belief and disbelief and rationality. I wanted so much to love this show. What a clever premise, what a feat it would be…but they jerked us around while they jerked…er, well, there was jerking.

    Thanks for being so articulate; for not drinking the LOST rules kool-aid. I’m gonna check in here often.

    • thomaschalfant

      May 29, 2010 at 3:21 am

      Drinking LOST kool-aid, I like that one. And I like that you’re sticking with capitalizing all the letters in the title – I couldn’t remember to keep doing that, and so I kept with the other way, like Bush’s mispronunciation of “nuclear.”

      Thank you, and I do hope that you check in here often.

  128. Dexter

    May 28, 2010 at 7:15 pm

    If you can explain time travel, let me know! We’ll make millions!!

  129. The Island

    May 28, 2010 at 8:10 pm

    I agree, and i would like to have them make another ending. i wish they do!
    i can’t stop thinking about, and i’m having dreams about the show.
    I want a different ending

    • thomaschalfant

      May 29, 2010 at 3:50 am

      I’m dreaming about it too!

      But with all the traffic here lately, I’m dreaming about this blog as well!

  130. Nick B

    May 28, 2010 at 11:54 pm

    Had to share this. No idea if its real, but it claims to be a LOST writer’s explanation of things: Though there isn’t really much there that most of us didn’t already get, except the claim that the very end of the show was always what JJ Abrams wanted. Which could be true. I don’t buy that Jacob brought Dharma to the island though.

    I should also plug the blog I found it on (in their comments), which I followed for most of the series:

  131. tacocat

    May 29, 2010 at 1:59 am

    A lot of people have given their opinion on your thoughts so I’ll be attempt to only address things I haven’t seen mentioned for sake of redundancy. Your opinion is noted, and I feel similarly in some ways. However I liked the finale. But wish I would have loved it. There was a lot of stuff that made me question the quality of storytelling, however in retrospect I realized “everything happens for a reason”. I don’t think the show was mishandled, or that we were manipulated by the creators for huge sacks of cash. I consider it wonderfully crafted, an unbelievable work that won’t be replicated on TV show for awhile…

    I don’t want to seem a pompous enlightened Desmond type, like I know something you don’t/can’t understand. We watched the same show and got two different things from it. A few weeks ago I was close to where you were standing, I couldn’t believe the botch job of the mythology, or why some things were simply ignored. However, in Jack’s sacrifice I now have a complete story, and complete “work of art”, to judge. The hero story ending of Jack’s death gave the story infinite meaning to me, it made it an important story to tell, regardless of the questions unanswered. I will admit, I wasn’t satisfied with this journey alone, it was merely one character amongst dozens in a chaotic world. Jack wasn’t enough.

    Eventually in my thought process I got “meta” on it. I began to question the producers just like you. I asked why, wondered what the reason could to be. I think you would agree they did this purposely, correct? This was a calculated withholding of answers. But what if it wasn’t just to get people to watch (I will say, thats a least a part), but rather to say something? What is more significant: mystery of THE mysteries? You would probably argue THE mysterious, and I understand, I would have loved them too, but was that the final point? To me, the point becomes- the mystery in life is constant, and for our characters (the dreaded c-word) they were abound and plentiful. But in their limited time on the earth, they did not falter in the face of these mysteries, but rather did something so vastly important they were rewarded with afterlife.

    How did they do it? With faith. Rather Faith. A word that should familiar to even a basic Lost fan. Through the scope of Jack we see what faith, within reason, can do for a man. In Locke we see how it can ruin one. We got the “Ultimate” answer in a way, and the show used the science vs faith question to answer the rest. Science doesn’t explain everything, but faith CAN, even if the answer it requires ignoring the question. (BTW, I’m not at all a pious person, but I can appreciate the message in its self, particularly the delivery)

    Perhaps this isn’t satisfactory, you’re still peeved at the unresolved crazy stuff (again, not going to deny there’s A LOT). One could say I’m just reaching for meaning here, right? I’m trying to find SOMETHING to make this experience worthwhile (I could tie that into themes of faith too, but thats meta-meta). Sometimes I convince myself I’m not convincing myself the show was great…and I keep coming back to the heavily ingrained messages and themes of the work and how they become so much more prevalent through the the way the show ended. Also, in a way I have never seen before, Lost absorbed its largest most glaring flaw, its lack of answers, in the crux of the show. Life/Lost is a mysterious, chaotic place/show, full of the unknown, but the point is to cope with, transcend through, even utilize that mystery for whatever is at “The End”.

    A couple other attempts at defending the series. One – the series was so transparent that it created a weird aura of expectation. Lindelof and Cuse did so many interviews and gave so many hints that people developed their own image of the series before it was fully told. I’m not going to harp on it, but its an extremely large job to create a TV show over 6 years. Its like telling you to write a novel, but I want a section it every year and no more. For the first three years you won’t know if I’ll ever need another chapter. Now imagine a rotating group of co-writers, different editors and characters that sometimes become unavailable.

    The other thing is another personal observation that I think is a niffy nod from the producers. You might find it a facetious one though. Notice Hurley was put in charge of the Island. Hurley has been described as the Lost fan of Lost, he speaks for us, acts as our corollary. In a way I think they were trying to say THE FANS are now the Island protectors, we are the keepers of mythology and we don’t have to run things like “Jacob ran things”. That might be another slap in the face to you, that now after watching all this time, its comes down to a giant “Mad Libs”, but its the fans job to color in this world. If you aren’t up to the job I’m sorry, but I am. We all still have work to do.

    I’d like to convince you, but I probably won’t, and thats no slight. I just wish you wouldn’t call the people who enjoyed it stupid. I know you were talking to the forum freaks, spouting their crap, and hopefully I’m not that guy, but I’m still can’t help but at least try to explain MY interpretation, without saying “You don’t get it” or “It was about the characters!” I hope above anything you come to a peace with your Lost experience, a 120+ hours is a lot of time completely wasted.

    • thomaschalfant

      May 29, 2010 at 2:09 am

      Listen, man, I appreciate the reply, and that’s a lot there – and I’ll tell you, I do agree with a few of the criticisms I’ve been getting of the letter, and I’m putting together something for the next day or two about it. In hindsight, I sure wuold have loved to have seen myself behave in a more serene manner, but one thing I can tell you – whether I conveyed it well or not – is I really wasn’t trying to belittle EVERYONE who liked the show.

      I made point after point about inconsistencies in the plot that you probably would agree with, and it wasn’t really to attack the show – though I can see from a more calm perspective it could easily seem that way.

      Rather, I just wanted to point out that if the answers I got were the answers, they weren’t exactly bulletproof, so there was no need to be smug about embracing them. It wasn’t like, that was obviously the only smart thing to think, and it wasn’t like the only obvious thing to do was like them.

      It wasn’t like I didn’t know Bruce Willis was a ghost, and didn’t admit it. Maybe I just knew he was a ghost and still didn’t like the movie – you know what I mean?

      Really, that’s about the third blog-sized response to get dropped in here, and I’m all for it. I respect your opinion, and your perspective, and especially the way you respect the other side as well.

      I’ll reply to this comment and drop the link whenever I post the next one – really, you and I agree on a lot of things.

  132. ca watson

    May 29, 2010 at 4:59 am

    I totally understand the bitterness. You covered what I think a lot of us feel as the End left a lot to be desired. I’m glad you addressed the smugness of those who were satisfied knowing full well much of the mysteries remained unanswered. How can they be so dim? As has been said it was a good journey. However when the bottom line comes down to writers pulling crap out their asses that they knew they were never going to tie up it it ultimately was just a long con.

  133. SMK

    May 29, 2010 at 6:29 am

    I’ve been thinking about the finale since Sunday and I am still disappointed. Reading the boards, I have concluded that most people on the boards are younger than I am (43). The name calling and such is a drag. Maybe when you get older you appreciate a debate more than you take a differing opinion personally and lash out. Why are some Lost fans so vicious verbally? That’s a new mystery! And now I’m going to tell you this: I think they all died on the Island in the plane crash!! LOL! I really think it and always thought it since Season 1. At least I think that was the original intent. Then Faraday’s equation book, the room with the map and hanging pendulum in the church, and the flash sideways made me wonder. So maybe not, I thought. But after the ending, I think they really did die in the crash. Sorry, but I think it. At least I think that was the original intent of the writers and is supported by the ending of the show (and I know about Christian’s statement). And I am a licensed lawyer. Not that that’s a huge indicator of intelligence, as anybody can do law school if they study hard enough, but it should show I possess a modicum of critical thinking ability.

  134. jeanshorts

    May 29, 2010 at 8:18 am

    Thank you, so, so much for posting exactly what I was thinking, but couldn’t express as anything more than a grouping of swear words followed by me sighing and walking away.

    Like I’m sure a ton of people have already posted (seriously what is that like 9567 comments?) when the show was good, it was amazing. Nothing else on TV could touch it. Which is why I think so many of us were so, I don’t want to say devastated but, devastated with it ending on such a cheesy, lame, cop-out note.

    Ugh I get furious just thinking about how god damn lame the whole thing was and how nothing that happened prior to season six had any bearing on anything whatsoever other than Jack meeting some people on an island.
    So again, thank you for this. This is exactly what I needed to sum up my thoughts without me having to do any actual work.

  135. Dank

    May 29, 2010 at 8:53 am

    Aw man, I’m a hot pocket muncher AND I hated the Lost finale.

    Lonely…so lonely…

  136. TDS

    May 29, 2010 at 9:05 am

    Outstanding post, outstanding letter. Your rage is to me what Heat Lamp in Magic Cave is to all the Lost fundamentalists waging jihad on us heretics for daring to challenge the infallible storytelling skills of Lindelof and Cuse.

    Unfortunately, it appears I will have to put Lost into the same Eternally Unfinished category that I’ve placed a number of beloved works of fiction that ended badly.

    Han Solo never got out of carbon freeze.
    Michael Corleone is still sitting on that park bench.
    Jack Bauer never returned from China.

    And we never found out what happened after Juliet played whack-a-mole with a hydrogen bomb at the bottom of a Dharma well.

  137. levelwiththeeye

    May 29, 2010 at 12:47 pm

    great rant
    my initial disapointment at the end has now passed after rewatching a few times. although i did want and expect some answers, im happy with it. i never expected all the answers and probobly even wanted some to be left open.
    even as an atheist ive come round to the alt ending, i just think they dedicated to much time to it, as that end could have been put at the end of most tv shows or films where a set of characters have spent time together.
    i did feel a little cheated as the promo’s for season 6 were like ‘answers are coming’ etc. anyway i guess the characters meant more to me than the mysteries maybe thats why i’m ok with it now. but if another shows comes around with lots of mysteries i’m not going to get past 6 episodes let alone 6 seasons

  138. Woofer

    May 30, 2010 at 5:15 pm

    Tip: Avoid Stephen King’s Dark Tower series. 🙂

    • thomaschalfant

      May 30, 2010 at 5:17 pm

      Too late – he already got me. Remember at the end, he even sort of starts yelling at you, for reading the last chapter.

      • Woofer

        May 31, 2010 at 3:00 am

        I know! Still, I could never not read it.

        LOST = very emotionally satisfying, but intellectually not so much.

        Nevertheless, I decided that I would be fine with that somewhere between seasons 3 and 4 because the enormity of what they’d spun didn’t lend itself to a neat and tidy answer – or even a couple of them.

        Damon and Carlton, like King, said there would be answers but not to everything. That’s the moment that confirmed how I suspected the show would end – on an emotional rather than intellectual note.

        It’s unfortunate when people with differing opinions can’t respect each other and/or their opinions.

  139. Joanna

    May 30, 2010 at 7:46 pm

    Hey, I really enjoyed this article/letter. I can only imagine what moron insulted you, that’s the downside of universal web access in the free world 🙂
    I have to admit though that I liked the ending – but in spite of all the loose ends, not by denying their presence. I think I allowed myself to enjoy it for 2 reasons: 1. Their excellent deployment of the catastrophic “Across The Sea” did it’s trick and definitely lowered my expectations – it was hard not feel a little relief that it wasn’t as awful… & 2. I knew the warm fuzzy feeling was fleeting and in the coming days I would start to feel a little resentment.. so I decided to relish what positive attributes I could find from the final episode of my favourite show… and being a woman and all the tears came quite easily 🙂
    However, now that I’ve had time to digest I do feel somewhat cheated, particularly with the Jacob/MIB story that in all fairness was probably the only reason I tuned into Season 6 – but like I said – I experienced that crushing feeling a few weeks ago with Across The Sea, the killer blow had already happened for me back then because I realized we would get no more than what they gave us. With all the publicity and money this show surely has I thought they could gave given us something more ‘epic’ in Across The Sea – so that was disappointing. And that’s why I didn’t hate the final – I’d already felt what you did a few weeks ago, and I went into the final already knowing no great answers were going to be given. Jack Shepard and their secret weapon of Vincent left us all a bit blinded by tears… 🙂

  140. Amy

    May 30, 2010 at 9:54 pm

    Bravo. Thank you so much for saying this in a clear, intelligent manner.

  141. ecossie possie

    May 31, 2010 at 12:17 am

    Well I can tell you what happened after Juliet played whak a mole with the H. bomb at the end of season 5.Nothing order for a nuclear bomb to explode the urinium core needs to go critical this is caused by implosion.The core is surounded by conventinal explosives wich when detonated cause the core to implode an a runaway nuclear reaction causes the explosion.Simply removeing the core may have made a good plot line but not reality .However I learnt to suspend beleif watching Lost in season one.As soon as I realised they insisted on calling Jack a doctor.Surgeons are not refered to as Dr simply as Mr ..They maybe good story tellers but there very hazy on facts

  142. John

    May 31, 2010 at 1:54 am

    It’s obvious that the writer’s lied along the way as to what was going on with the show…

    But, that being said, I do believe that everything does have an answer if you accept that the island and the ending were all supposed to signify Jack’s journey through death.

    Christian said everything that happened was real… but, in the next breath when Jack asked him if he was real, he said yes. He was dead and he was real.

    The island was real, but not something that can logically be understood by the living. It’s like a dream… connections can be made, but no universal understanding can be gleaned.

    I know people will say I’ve completely missed the point and that I didn’t hear what the characters said in the final scenes, but I’m pretty sure that those who believe the island was real in its truest sense are missing the point.

    If the island was a dreamland/deadland turned real, is that a cop-out on the part of the writers? Sure… but, what other explanation would have made more sense?

  143. hazynibs

    May 31, 2010 at 5:34 am

    I’m not going to read 292 comments to figure out if this has already been said, but I did read your entire post and I have something to add. But before I do, I’d like to preemptively say that I don’t think you’re stupid and I certainly don’t think I’m smarter than you. Probably I’m just older. Like, a lot older.

    But we do have different goals, so perhaps I can give you a bit of insight.

    By the time Friday or Saturday morning came around I had resigned myself that all the questions I had were never going to be answered. By the time the show had been on for its first hour on Sunday, I knew that almost none of them would be answered. I started to get mad. I started to regret the 150whatever hours I had devoted to all this mystery about the numbers, the symbols, the Dharma Initiative and so forth.

    But I didn’t want to be mad. I’ve realized somewhere in the last couple decades that being mad at something I can do NOTHING about and that doesn’t affect my real life in any sort of real way is a total waste of time.

    After the show was over and I had to start doing damage control on my temper, I knew I had to find a way to enjoy what I got (which was still a lot) without regretting what I felt like I was losing. (answers)

    So I made a choice. I made a choice to try and see things in the best light. It wasn’t easy. I still very much wanted to understand more of the rules, more of the wheel, more of the time travel. But if I focused on that shit, I’d never have any peace.

    So I focused on what I got instead:

    Which was an imperfect, but still gorgeous allegory for life. I had this profound realization that all my life, all I’ve ever wanted were the answers. To EVERYTHING. And I know I won’t get those answers either. And this reminded me that IRL I have come to believe that all the bullshit we do; all the running all over chasing, and running from monsters, and the others, and ourselves. All the escaping and returning, and the button pushing and the climbing in and out of holes — as much as I want to know WHY we have to do all this, (It does seem so pointless sometimes.) none of it actually matters in the end.

    In the end, all that matters is the love you take with you wherever you go. I know it’s corny. The end of Lost was corny. But as a metaphor for life? Kind of perfect.

    None of that shit mattered. We want it to, but it doesn’t. We want our car, and our job and our hobbies and our favorite things to matter, but in the biggest of all the big pictures, they don’t. And neither did all the stuff on Lost. Just like life, it was all there only to keep us entertained until the end when we find out what really matters.

    This isn’t satisfying. I know. But at a certain point, anger is a choice. And so I made a different choice. I choose to look at what I got instead of what I lost. Which was nothing really. What else was I going to watch on Thursday night? Idol?? Pah!!!

    Those characters gave me a lot in the end. Even if it wasn’t what I would have asked them for.

    So I feel better. I hope you can too someday.

    • thomaschalfant

      May 31, 2010 at 6:43 pm

      I love this post. Couple of things – yes, I definitely got over it. Writing the letter was definitely key to getting rid of the anger, and it seems like it helped a lot of people, with their anger, so I wouldn’t say that it was a waste of time. It was just honest anger, and for me, it’s pretty much gone now. I have a few other pieces up about Lost, and you’ll find I’m not frothing at the mouth any more.

      A lot of people feel cheated by the idea that not getting answers is like life. The feeling is, we weren’t watching Lost for an analogy about life and its answerless questions. But we don’t get to write the show, the writers do – they did it how they wanted to do it.

      The question that we could dwell on is, did they really do it to make that analogy, or did they do it because, logistically, they just couldn’t answer the questions. I think a fair point – and one Amy makes – is that the writers never explicitly promised us answers. It sure felt like they did, and I have no doubt they played with our expectations, but even the build-up THE TIME FOR QUESTIONS HAS ENDED – that turned out to be ABC talking, not the writers.

      Oh, definitely – I feel better already. Thanks for a very insightful perspective.

      • hazynibs

        June 1, 2010 at 4:44 am

        I’m really genuinely glad that you’re feeling better about all this. You seem like a good guy. Good guys should have a nice life.

        Re the first paragraph in your reply. Some clarification. I didn’t mean that it was a waste of time for you to write what you wrote. It was brilliant. It was clearly helpful — to you and to others. I meant only that it would be a waste to continue to wallow in anger about something you can’t do anything about. And you didn’t. You produced a clear, insightful piece of writing that expressed an emotion you didn’t really want to have.

        I don’t believe that we can just change our emotions directly by force of will alone. What we do is change the way we think about something, and change what we’re focused on about it. And then slowly our emotions will follow. Learning this changed my life. I use it for big things, like failed relationships, and for small things, like the finale of a great TV show not giving me what I thought I wanted out of it.

        You’ve done it too. And it taught you something about life. Something small, but something good.

        /weird gospel of hazynibs>

      • thomaschalfant

        June 1, 2010 at 12:38 pm

        Yes, I definitely knew (and know) what you were saying about the waste of time thing, and yes, I’m definitely glad – and amazed – at the way this whole thing has played out.

        Thank you – we don’t talk about television shows around here very much, but I’d love to see you commenting on the rest of what I’m putting out there. It’s all over the map, and drawing people like yourself to the site is what it’s all about in the first place.

        Pretty soon I’m going to wind up on the White House lawn having a beer with Lindelof.

      • JohnMoonlord

        June 1, 2010 at 6:13 am

        “Previously, on ‘BLOG’…”

        Sorry, couldn’t resist. 😉

        (I also thought about naming your blog: BLOST.)

  144. Nileas

    May 31, 2010 at 2:15 pm

    the ones who like the ending did you also like War of the worlds?

    i want explanations but thats me.
    the writers got confused and lost also – a good example is when
    the “mother” of Jacob and MIB said that she made it so they cant kill each other, yet Jacob killed MIB later on and we saw him burrying MIB and his mother so we cant “imagine, assume” or whatever…
    why didnt Jacob explain to Ben why he did what he did instead of letting him getting killed? why was it so important to kill smokey after he became mortal? how did smokey look from the start? did Jacobs mom know about smokey? and if she did, how? and why didnt she tell Jacob that if u let anyone in there they will release a smoke devil mob?
    why did Jacob bring people to protect the candidates when smokey could kill them easily and while he wasnt able to kill the candidates?
    why did the fire in the explosive stop when Robert and Jake was in the boat and not the bomb in the submarine?
    what was the island good for? someone created a light there to “trap” a smokey and put someone to “guard” the island so he couldnt leave from there? they didnt even explain how he was gonna leave from there since he had no idea that Desmond was there or what he could do, so what was MIBs plan from the start to leave the island?
    and for the last why the hell bother to make such a thing as an afterlife reality time where people are dead but living their lives waiting to the time when they all can gather to go to the light? the ending is as bad as the ending of War of the worlds.

    • JohnMoonlord

      May 31, 2010 at 6:52 pm

      Ok, Nileas, I’m gonna give it a shot, and I’ll specifiy if the answer is a verified fact or only a theory:

      1. Jacob didn’t “kill” MIB, he threw him in the river, towards the entrance to the light, knowing that it would be for MIB “worst than death” according to her mother. MIB (or at least his body) “died” in the aftermath of falling in the light. (Fact)

      2. Because Jacob always believed in choice and always tried to have as few influence as possible, letting people think for themselves. (Theory supported by facts.)

      3. Because with the “cork” out is the only instance in which smokey would be mortal, so killable, not once Jack put the cork back in place. (Theory)
      Add a good dose of revenge on the part of the survivors. (Fact)

      4. MIB always looked like MIB form the start (fact); as for smokey, don’t know: it might not even existed if not for MIB falling in the light, since smokey wasn’t an issue until then. (Fact)

      5. She knew enough to say that going in there would be worse than death. Other than that, don’t know.

      6. She told Jacob that if someone went in there, he would suffer a fate worst than death, whether she knew or not that it would take the form of smokey. (Fact)

      7. Jacob never knew how the smokey version of his brother could be killed. So having some backup couldn’t hurt, and they at least seemed to know a trick or two to at least keep him at bay (ashes). (Fact)

      8, That was a question of faith, and Jack believed in it. (Fact) Why “exactly”, I don’t know. Sawyer didn’t believe when Jack told him that he felt that smokey couldn’t kill them directly, so smokey made a bomb that would detonate by trying to disarm it, thus taking advantage of a loop-hole in Jacob’s rules. The timer was a decoy so they would try to disarm, while the act would actually make it blow.

      9. The island is the source to a light that is closely related to the notions of life and death. (Fact)

      10, For a while in season 4 and 5, I believed that the island was a prison for smokey. But I now think that the island became a prison in order to trap smokey per the rules of Jacob, meaning it had nothing to do with smokey prior to the events leading to Jacob vs MIB for 2000 years. (Theory)

      11, Widmore gave smokey the key as to why he brought Desmond to the island. Using Desmond wasn’t smokey’s original plan, but he understood that he could use Desmond to his advantage. (Fact)
      As for the original plan, he first needed to get rid of the candidates. (Fact) Perhaps by having Desmond now, he felt he didn’t need to do that anymore. (Theory).
      As for the means to leave, we originally had the plane, the boat and the sub. (Fact)

      12. Depends on how you perceive the afterlife. If for you, the afterlife is the end of anything worthwhile, then it is pointless. If you think of the afterlife as the next step of our existence, as shown in the series, then it would be a place of final trial before moving on to somewhere else. (Theory)
      I also believe that the actions of the characters on the island were reflected in the flash-sideways (consequences, in a way). (Theory)

      As for The War of the Worlds: I believe you’re referring to the Tom Cruise version.
      Well, just like in the original movie and the book by H.G. Wells, the aliens came from who knows where to invade us, but suffered from our pollution/virus or other element of our planet on which we didn’t have direct control. The story was about people surviving the ordeal, not actually fighting it.

      There, hope it helps.

  145. Ivan

    May 31, 2010 at 6:52 pm

    I’m actually kind of divided myself right now.
    i remember when i saw the ending, it had a very good first hour and so, but as time kept passing, we were not getting anywhere, and i was seeing my watch and saying come on, show me the big surprise and resolve already… finally, when the show was over i turned off the tv, and went to sleep saying, hope i’m dreaming and this wasn’t the end, but no!!

    now that some days have passed, i think i like it better, but i guess that’s just me tired of being angry and accepting that they just messed up and couldn’t give us a satisfying end.

    as you say, there are so much answers missing, and what bothers me the most is not the fact that they did not answer them, but the fact that they said they WOULD answer them.

    Also i’m very disappointed of christian shepard, i thought from the very first season that he was going to have a very important part in the puzzle, and watching the first scenes of the finale, when transporting the coffin, i thought that finally his true role and purpose was going to be revealed, but… we know what happened.

    and actually i think your explanation was much much better, i’m a fan of the “alternate reality” stories and images in the mirror etc, and i liked a lot your idea of the parallel universes creating each other and trapped in a time loop,

    we have to accept the writers and producers didn’t really knew where they were going, and that at the end, the huge universe they created sumed by the “normal world” dificulties such as walt growing up and actors issues with contracts were just too big to handle, and they just went the way they thought was better.

    but i’m trying to be at peace now, as i saw in one comment, i’m keeping with the journey, a really awesome journey, and accepting the “sentimental” side of the ending, watching jack ending his journey while vincent keeping him company was very emotive i have to accept.

  146. Gelious

    May 31, 2010 at 7:33 pm

    Well… So you had a theory about Lost. A good one, I must admit.
    Actually I like it very much. It is nice and smart. But.. it didn’t come true. Well.. and so what? Such thing can happen with ANYONE, unless you are Damon Lindelof or Carlton Cuse.
    So there is no need to be angry, dude.
    And if you like parallel universes that must not collapse.. just watch Fringe. We don’t want Lost to become the second Fringe, do we?
    For the protocol – I was upset when I found out that all the heroes were dead. It is so sad(

    • Ivan

      June 1, 2010 at 5:02 pm

      but they all died at different times, probably desmond, penny, sawyer and kate lived much longer out of the island, but when they died they were reunited

  147. Nileas

    May 31, 2010 at 9:57 pm

    ty john for giving me your view off the situation!

    but the thing still remaining that the mother said they cant kill eachother and yet he killed him by knocking down his head on the ground and then burry him later, then the smokey thingy took his apearents like it did with locke when locke was dead as well.

    sure i can buy that he belived in choises its like religious people say about god and yet he makes miracles and interfear in other matters allso.
    later on when Miles talked to Ben he said that Jacob said that into the last he hoped Ben wouldent hit him with the knife. i dont see it as interfear to explain to someone why u did some stuff and why you didnt explain to him other stuff you did.
    if Jacob would have explained why he acted like he did then Ben would prolly not stabb him.

    none off them actually made any resistance, sure he got help from said because somehow Dogun could keep him outside and when he died then smokey could get inside and kill the others easy.

    the other thing is that both times when Robert and Sayid was send to kill Jacob and MIB they told them not to let them talk to then, because then its to late. but yet that didnt apply for Ben….

    but there is more things that makes no sence, i know the numbers was off the “candidates” but at that point when he pressed them there were more than 6, then another thing is that 1. why make it to write the numbers? couldent they find a way to auto do it?
    2. it was Jacob that “brought” them there so how come he knew that Desmond will forget to press the numbers the exact time the airplane is in the right cords to get hit from the hatch and tear apart?

    why could Jacob leave the island but not MIB? what was the rules that Jacob said to MIB when MIB said he cant tell him what to do…
    why could hurley see all the “Dead” people?
    why didnt MIB get his own troopers or recruit followers there is allways people following all kind of leaders, iam sure many would follow him and help him kill the “candidates”

    • JohnMoonlord

      June 1, 2010 at 1:01 am

      (Round 2: FIGHT!!) 😉

      Ok, once more with feeling!

      1. Like I said, he didn’t kill him. He threw him in the river. Knocking his head was an accident. Jacob wanted to make him suffer a fate worst than death. When the mother said she made so that they couldn’t kill each other, she meant it. But since MIB died “by accident” that was a loophole in the mother’s rule, like when Ben stabbed Jacob for smokey.

      2. Yes, he hoped, and he tried it out that way. Didn’t work. Him not doing what you would’ve done doesn’t mean it doesn’t make sense. He probably figured Ben had to make a decision without him having to explain his actions. Ben was blinded anyway by smokey, playing with Ben’s feelings towards the death of Alex. A possible outcome even if Jacob spilled it out could’ve been:

      -Ben: “You saw you rmother get killed and killed your own brother, so you figured I should live through the death of my child?!?!” *stabs*

      All this is speculation of course. What I mean in the end is that Jacob made a choice as well.

      3. Dunno about Dogun’s influence on the defenses of the temple, how potent it was, if any. Could also be that undead Sayid wanted to settle a score with Dogun for sending him to his death by confronting Smokey, the latter playing on that to recruit him.

      4. Who’s Robert? Perhaps your referring to Ben (Benjamin)? I think it’s a case of “who always lies, the door on the left or the door on the right”. Smokey is the corrupter, not Jacob. Then again, Dogun might’ve said that to Sayid just so he would go through with it without giving smokey a chance to convince him otherwise. (Then again, smokey had the time to say “hello” to Sayid before being stabbed, therefore “talking” before Sayid acted.)

      5. That remains in the theoretical realm, Here’s my take on it: the numbers for each potential candidates (all of them, not the just the 6 numbers) were “angles” marked on the lighthouse. Turning to the right angle, Jacob could observe that person. Now, why the infamous 6 numbers came out everywhere? I don’t think neither Jacob or MIB knew about this. I like to think that the numbers interwined with the fabric of space/time and/or fate in order to nudge the 6 candidates related to them to the climax of Jacob’s quest for a candidate.

      Again, only a theory, no proof.

      6. I don’t think Jacob can just whim them there. He had to do a lot of work through time to “nudge” the candidates towards the island. And when they flew over the island, it wasn’t that he knew Desmond would fail to push it, but again, he might’ve “nudged it” to happen as well. Hell, maybe even Desmond was candidate at one time…

      I would have to watch the series again to check that theory out…

      7. MIB told Jacob when they were kids that one day, Jacob could make up the rules of a game, then everyone would have to follow them once they were set. How did he do that exactly? I don’t know. Maybe it comes with the job. So jacob made rules in order to trap smokey on the island. But smokey found a loophole and we know the rest… I guess it’s like in law: the wording of the rules are very important, because you can play with them and find a “loophole” to take advantage of.

      8. Hurley is a mutant. 😛

      No, seriously, I don’t know. Then again, why does Miles can communicate with the dead? Maybe they both just do.

      9. MIB did recruit as much people as he could on the island itself (he couldn’t outside). During the entire show, he manipulated as much people as possible in order for them to kill each other when he couldn’t himself.

      Once he took over Locke’s form, he tried to dispose of the remaining candidates by earning their trust, or at least steer them in the direction he wanted. That eventually culminated in the sub-explosion.

      Of course, all of this and more are open to discussion: we don’t have clear cut answers to all that stuff, but I think we do have sufficient material to make our own theories on it. I just shared a few of mine to you. You probably have your own, and that’s fine.

      It doesn’t have to change how you feel about the series and the finale, though. If what you really wanted were straight answers to the misteries, well, we didn’t get that. So no amount of theorizing will change that.

      At least, I hope you find those theories interesting. 🙂

  148. DPKF

    June 1, 2010 at 9:51 am

    Thank you!!! I really appreciate your post, because I felt very much the same. I loved Lost, and stupidly believed them when they said there would be answers, and then was totally let down by the finale.

    And I can’t believe I fell for it again! I was totally Rambaldi-ed! Remember Alias, where there was this amazing guy (Rambaldi) from the 1500s who created all these impossible inventions, made people immortal, etc… they teased us, but never explained who he was and how he did what he did. Then in a J.J. Abrams interview after the finale, J.J. confirmed that they were never planning to explain Rambaldi, that he was just a plot device… a reason for these spies to go running around trying to get there first. I swore I wouldn’t fall for it again and yet I did!

    I bet Fringe is going to end a la “That 70’s Show” with Walter, Belly and that Red Headed Chick sitting around a table in someone’s basement, smoking dope, laughing and eating junk food, saying “wouldn’t that be funny if that actually happened.”

  149. howard

    June 1, 2010 at 3:56 pm

    If you wanted answers you were watching the wrong show.
    It was like that all the way through it from beginning to end.

    You guys should watch this

    JJ abrams explains why he does this stuff

    • Bethany

      June 1, 2010 at 6:45 pm

      Hey, I saw that talk. I thought it was a slip up – what with producers claiming they knew where the story was going – that he admitted to basically pulling it out of his butt for the pilot because he was on a deadline. That’s the opposite of having a carefully crafted story from start to finish, which I thought was the impression producers were trying to give viewers. Also, didn’t he hand the show over at some point?

      I am not instigating.

    • DPKF

      June 2, 2010 at 12:19 pm

      Thanks for the video you linked to, it actually made me feel a little bit better. I guess my objection is still that they promised answers and an overall plan the whole time, and I feel foolish for believing them. David Letterman summed up their plan perfectly in his Lost Series Recap “A plane crashes on an island, weird stuff happens, they all die.” If Lost had been a book series, I think it would have been awful… why was all this stuff introduced and never explained, even a little bit? Maybe it’s just that I love time travel and SF and expected too much from TV. If you want to watch an excellent time travel movie, check out “Primer” which is absolutely awesome. In the end, you don’t have all the answers, you’re left saying “WTF?” but overall it’s way more satisfying. I guess, what it comes down to was that the writers/producers of Lost knew they had 2 types of fans… fans that loved the characters (“Oh, is Kate gonna end up with Jack or Sawyer? Oh my!”) and fans that loved the crazy mystery of the island and it’s powers. I think they they could have given us science geeks a couple of cool answers in the finale, just to make it less aggravating! But that’s just my opinion.

  150. Sarah

    June 1, 2010 at 7:01 pm

    Thomas – What to watch after Lost – Battlestar Galactica. Did you watch Battlestar Galactica (the most recent series with James Olmos)? If not, you might like that show, which aired for about 4 years, I think. If you did watch, what did you think?

    • thomaschalfant

      June 2, 2010 at 1:31 pm

      Sarah – yes, I did watch Battlestar Galactica. In fact, I was thinking about posting something comparing the end of it to the end of lost, but I’ve only seen BSG once. I actually loved the show and it’s ending, but I had a couple of advantages.

      First, I saw the entire season in a single month. My wife was in Ecuador, and I was doing a lot of sitting around with my three daughters. The show was a little too graphic for them and my wife – their call, not mine. So a friend of mine lent me Season One, and I’d watch it late, after the girls went to bed.

      I wasn’t online so much then, wasn’t writing Future Tom or anything, and I watched it a couple of years after the hype had faded, so I never got to participate in the debate about the ending. I’ve talked to a few people who compared their feelings of frustration over Lost to the feelings of frustration over BSG, but I was completely satisfied with it. I thought it closed up pretty tightly, and I was riveted and in awe right up to the last second.

      What’d you think, Sarah?

      • JohnMoonlord

        June 2, 2010 at 4:22 pm

        You have an interesting point there, Tom.

        I got to see the first 4 seasons of Lost in a bundle, back to back. Prior to the beginning of the fith season, the Space channel (Canada’s equivalent to the SciFi channel) showed them everyday, most of the time 2 episodes the same night. And I didn’t start watching them until I had quite a bunch of ’em recorded.

        Like you for BG, that probably helped me enjoy LOST, and espcially the finale, more than I would’ve otherwise. Perhaps if I’d managed to follow the series from the start, I might’ve just be as pissed about the ending as many of you are. (Hey, the mysteries got me hooked as well!)

        Fortunalty for me, I loved it. 😀

        I’m wondering just how much viewing conditions like this can affect our appreciation of what we’re watching.

        I haven’t finished watching BG yet (the channel I used to watch it on stopped showing after season 2 or 3), but I’m looking forward in completing it eventually.

        On another note, there’s one thing I can say for all of us LOST fans (and ex-fans too): we’re passionate about it. Everywhere I’ve looked so far, it’s (almost) never “hey, that was good” or “nah, didn’t like it”. It’s always “It was the best thing EVAAAR!!” or “Worst piece of crap EVAAAR!!”. No middle view, one extreme or the other.

        Liked the finale or not, I think it shows just how much this TV series left its mark.

      • Sarah

        June 2, 2010 at 4:48 pm

        Hi Tom. Thanks for your reply. Similarly, I also had the advantage of watching BSG seasons 1-3 over a short period of time, and then watched the last season live. I also only watched it once, but remember thoroughly enjoying the entire series and feeling very satisfied with the series finale. Well, except all the sex, I didn’t understand why that graphic aspect of the show was necessary. I thought it was a smart and relevant show, more so than Lost. (smile) I liked the themes of religion (polytheism vs monotheism), politics (democracy vs dictatorship), and free will (could a cylon choose to die? Marry and procreate with a human?). Also, it was interesting to watch how the Cylons were demonized by the humans to justify their enslavement (i.e. calling them toasters, questioning their intelligence, etc.). I don’t remember the series finale leaving me with as many unanswered questions as Lost, but maybe that’s just nostalgia.

      • thomaschalfant

        June 3, 2010 at 4:19 am

        John – I watched the first few seasons of Lost that way, too, and I mis-typed up there, I actually watched the whole series in a month, not the season.

        It’s a good one to mention because I wasn’t paying attention, and I only barely care what the makers of BSG promised us explicitly, but I felt like they delivered the resolution that the story called for. I didn’t have it in writing, but my expectations were exceded.

        Sarah – your experience is nearly identical to mine. The sex – it wasn’t like I was offended, it was just that it frequently seemed thrown-in, and anyway, I thought it was distracting, too. And the secondary effect was, yeah, my kids wouldn’t be comfortable watching it with me, even if I was cool with them watching it.

  151. Glober the Prober

    June 1, 2010 at 7:40 pm

    Agree with my buddy Tom…the ending sucked ass! Can’t believe I wasted 6 years watching something that ended the way it did-they never tied anything of meaning together in my opinion. Well, at least it’s over!

    • thomaschalfant

      June 2, 2010 at 1:33 pm

      Glober the Prober?

      That’s a little bit weird. A nice blunt comment, I like it!

  152. Nileas

    June 1, 2010 at 9:57 pm

    1. i see it kinda obvious that he actually dies since they burry his body, the thing though is that he taking his shape, as he did the same when Locke was brought to the island. he didnt become Locke he just took his shape.
    2. still he was the protector of the island that was more important than his belives what i understood and so he should have known that Ben was unstable and was in a possition that he would have killed him, so to avoid it he only needed to answere some few questions and thats not much to ask if u ask me.
    3. they never explain why Dogun did what he did to Sayid and how come that Sayid got revived. its a riddle why Dogun was sure that Sayid was evil, and why did he want Jack to kill Sayid with a pill?
    4. Robert Alpert the spanish dude that in his “history showing” u see smokey finding him and telling him that he will see his wife again if he kills Jacob, but Jacob beats the shit out of him and then offers him imortality. but smokey told Robert the same to kill him before Jacob talking.
    5. yea the whole thing with the numbers was very bad explained.
    6. but it would be nice to get an explanation about what really happened there, was it Jacob that made that so Desmond didnt press or he maybe even told Desmond to “forget” to press or something? i doubt we will find that out.
    7. that sounds kinda logical so its highly possible it was like that.
    8. i dont argue about that, its a thing both totaly agree on 🙂
    9. still people always have followers and with his abilities he should have had some people following him also and not only like clair and sayid and the others did.

    the whole sidelife thing was all crap, they really didnt need it, it didnt get the serie forward in any way, it was just a verry bad made thing to milk the people and to make a 6 season because they had no idea what else to put in instead of that crap.

    • JohnMoonlord

      June 1, 2010 at 11:00 pm

      1. Yes, he does die, or at least his body dies, but Jacob didn’t “technically” kill him, that’s the thing. It resulted in his death, but that wasn’t was Jacob was aiming at.

      But I really think that MIB (his soul, his mind, whatever) becoming smokey, was the “fate worst than death” that mother told Jacob about. That said, it is possible that MIB’s fall in the light only triggered either the creation or the release of smokey. In either case, I think that smokey truly believed he used to be MIB in life.

      And yes, I also believe that smokey only took the shape of Locke, neither his body or spirit/soul/etc.

      2. Jacob is powerful, but he isn’t perfect (he created smokey in the first place, and on his first day: talk about epic fail!!).

      Things always seem easy when you’re not actually living the event. Jacob made the choice to shut up about it. Didn’t work out the way he would’ve liked it.

      Yes, he’s the protector, but he believes that his methods were the best to perform his duty, and killing smokey in the end, whether he was right or wrong about it. (Vote for the Hugo-reform!) It was a gamble, but he figured no matter the outcome, the candidates would take over the mantle.

      3. I don’t have any answers on that, except for one thing. Dogun told Jack that Sayid had to die “by his own actions” or something (I don’t remember the wording, but it kinda meant that). In short, Sayid had to kill Sayid, knowingly or not. Would have to check that episode again for more details.

      4. Ok, you mean “Richard” Alpert, ok, now I got ya.

      I think he just wanted to make sure Richard would go through with it, giving as little chance as possible for Jacob to survive. But that’s my take on it, I don’t know if the “don’t let him talk” part, either for Jacob or MIB, has some implications beyond “don’t let him talk you out of it”. Instilling the fear of being “mind-controlled” otherwise can be quite an incentive.

      5. Case closed.

      6. It sure would. We’re not getting any straight answers from the show, that’s a sure bet, but watching again, I hope to find some clue indicating what the f&%# happened there. 😉

      7. Case closed. And thanks for supporting the theory. 😀

      8. Common ground, that’s awesome, lol.

      9. We’ll, we don’t know how his powers actually work, or, in this case, if he either has any power at all for this purpose or if he just happens to be damn good at manipulating people. Hey, he manipulated Ben! Ben still turned out ok in the end.

      Claire and Sayid are case scenarios: one was stranded on her own on the island for 3 years, being fed all sort of ideas and thoughts by MIB. Sayid came back to life and nobody knows how or why (I suspect MIB, or at least something that was in his favor).

      As for the sidelife, well, we just feel differently about it, and that’s ok (just sucks that you didn’t enjoy watching it).

      You might wanna check out the Lost Facebook page, it recently added links to some very potent explanations, one in particular that was written by one of the writers of the series (dunno if the id is genuine or not, but it’s convincing). Hope you find more answers there. 🙂

      Namaste, Dude

  153. JoeyJoeJoe

    June 2, 2010 at 7:32 pm

    I’m a fan of the show and I enjoyed the ending. I’m aware they didn’t answer some things but I’m ok with that. I don’t think the people you mentioned who think they’re deep for “getting it” and those who didn’t like it “didn’t get it” are correct.That’s stupid argument and clearly false. I disliked your potential ending, but I still found it to be entertaining and well thought out.

    Whilst you didn’t enjoy the ending, and clearly hate these other people, I find your whole rant to be tremendously dickish. Specifically the part where you say to anyone willing to explain what they thought happened in the ending “No, you basement dweller”. You’re attacking those not specifically attacking you.

    I dislike your rant and I find it rather sad you feel so personally insulted. But then again, the people you are arguing with are just as bad at times.

    In short I agree with some of your points but for the most part you come across as bad as your opposition.

    • thomaschalfant

      June 3, 2010 at 12:59 am

      Yes, I think you are right in many ways, which is why I followed it up, hitting those exact points.

    • Nileas

      June 3, 2010 at 1:12 am

      i think that this page have been a respecting discussion, the ones i have talked to have giving me alot off good questions, i maybe dont agree with them all but yet i dont jugde the person off his belives.
      the thing that bothers me most is that the writers didnt explain how they saw it since its their show, now its alot of verry good but yet different versions off the scenarios what have happened and why.

      Namaste : awesome answeres dude, it have been a verry interesting reading and ill try to get into it more when its not this late here 🙂 and ill try to find that link you wrote about, where exacly on facebook have u put them?

  154. Mobius X

    June 4, 2010 at 2:08 pm

    The series was Religious Allegory all along. Each episode had the superficial story that everybody watches and wants answer to. But there also exists a Religious/Spiritual theme to be puzzled out. On the allegorical level, the series is complete and the writers have done their job. For example, the crash of Oceanic 815 represents the Fall of Man in the Bible. All plane crashes allude to that. Boone dying in the smaller plane, the toy planes on the mobile in Claire’s nursery, the song “Catch a FALLING star”. Then Jesus is sent to save mankind, Jack Shepard the Jesus figure, the wound on his side in the pilot episode, and repeated in the Finale with his stab wound by MIB, also he is a healer, leader of men, named “Shepard”. The Series completes the arc, with Jack sacrificing himself to save the people, like Jesus, then he dies. The plane he sees as he dies completes the salvation. It is opposite of the crash of 815. Therefore, the fall of man saved by Jesus. And it is all confirmed by the stained glass window and religious knicknacks in the church room when he talks to his father. It is all there, don’t give up on it, go back with fresh eyes and you would be pleasantly surprised at how difficult a job it was for the writers to attempt TWO stories in each episode, the LOST we see and the thematic one that needed to be “read between the lines”

  155. DD Hearn

    June 4, 2010 at 3:27 pm

    I’m chiming in pretty late here as I just discovered this page on Facebook. I come down solidly in the “loved it” camp, but will also admit to being pretty scientifically ignorant. I thought your alternate ending was intriguing, but to me this show ultimately turned out to be more of a spiritual journey than a science fiction show, especially once we got to the Beyond the Sea episode. I can see how the more scientifically inclined viewers, and especially those who are not believers in God or a spiritual reality would be disappointed with this.

    The writers have said that they came down on the side of faith with this story, and faith is believing in what is unseen. So there is always an aspect of the mysterious about it. I would have liked more answers to some of the questions too, but overall I enjoyed this roller coaster ride of a show and was not disappointed in the ending. As to what really happened? I keep thinking of the classic film, Roshomon, where we see a murder from the eyes of several different points of view, and are never told the real answer.

    John mentioned that some “explanation” sites were on the Lost Facebook page. I put a few up that I found especially interesting. Of course these are only theories that some pretty intelligent people have come up with. Maybe someday the writers will break their silence, but until then it’s up to us to try to make sense of it or let it go.

    • thomaschalfant

      June 5, 2010 at 12:51 pm

      Sorry it took so long to post your comment, but I had to be able to check out the links first. These are some pretty thorough explanation pages.

      • DD Hearn

        June 5, 2010 at 6:25 pm

        No problem, Tom. I figured you might need to check the sites out first. I wouldn’t have posted them here if John hadn’t mentioned they were up on Facebook. I appreciate your willingness to post them.

  156. Bill

    June 8, 2010 at 3:50 pm

    Wow, excellent post! It’s on the mark. From a story telling standpoint, I can’t see how ANYONE could say the ending was anything but crap.

    And your alternate explanation of the sideways stuff would have been an AMAZING story. Had the writers put that kind of thought into it, Lost would be EPIC fiction.

    But as you noted, the writers were just making things up and in the end weren’t competent enough to bring it all together.

  157. jillsue

    June 22, 2010 at 6:07 pm

    I happened across LOST in December and watched the entire series until I was up to date. I had heard that it was very good in a science fiction kinda way. I too, felt blindsided by the ending. I really do feel that it comes down to a very strong faith in a definite afterlife vs. years of watching time travel ,etc.(for me)
    The message that I got was that this life is really not so important it is just a passageway to the next one.

    Yes, this was Jack’s odysssey and his growth was the journey.
    Perhaps it is the mom in me, but I did not like the way that
    family/ children were portrayed at all.
    Eloise kills her son,Sun leaves her baby never to return. I do not consider the ending a Disney-type ending at all.
    I did believe that the 2 parallel worlds would realign somehow – my own theory of resolving time travel etc.
    So we are to believe that Sawyer and Kate went on with their lives, but the best 3 years were when they were on the island? Juliet also never got to have children.
    This is eternal bliss?
    Really enjoyed your blog and I did enjoy the show at many times it did make me think and reflect about my life.
    Even if I had a lot of faith, I really do not understand that by just stating ” we all die” it makes sense of life here and now.

  158. Frank

    June 29, 2010 at 2:55 pm

    For those that think that Lost was just wondering aimlessly, this is an interesting list of books referenced throughout the series.

    ‘Lost’: The Essential Reading List
    Still trying to puzzle out the meaning of it all? Doc Jensen looks at books, authors, and literary references that found a place in the ”Lost” world,,20313460_20397424_1,00.html

    • thomaschalfant

      July 1, 2010 at 12:37 am

      Uh, no, I’m not still trying to puzzle out the meaning of it all.

      That would imply that I was still retaining an even remote interest in the absurd story. I think about it only because thousands of people show up here to read my blog about it.

  159. Steve

    June 30, 2010 at 11:07 am

    The show did wander aimlessly. No amount of book reading will ever change that fact, period.

    However I should have taken the time over 6 seasons of watching LOST and read all of those books instead. It would have been much more satisfying.

    • Frank

      June 30, 2010 at 1:49 pm

      Steve and Thomas:

      You obviously harbor strong feelings against reading. And I’d like to respond in a way that makes you think, not lash out in anger. So, I’ll mull this over a bit and take a stab at it later.

      • Steve

        June 30, 2010 at 3:06 pm


        On the contrary, I love reading. I fail to understand how you conclude that I hate reading from my comment.

        Let me repeat myself for your benefit:

        If I spent 6 seasons reading those books, I would be a better person for it than had I spent 6 seasons watching LOST.

        The show DID indeed wander aimlessly. I could read a 1000 books to try and help me “understand” an aimless show. However in the end, it is still an aimless show.

      • Frank

        June 30, 2010 at 3:30 pm


        “No amount of book reading…”:

        That phrase REEKS of back-woods prejudice against education. And, how could you have finished an education in any first world country without reading at least five of books referenced, either explicitly by showing the books or through title references of the episodes?!?!?!?!?!

        And the episode titles: “White Rabbit”, ” Exodus”, “Man of Science, Man of Faith”, “A Tale of Two Cities”, ” Stranger in a Strange Land”, “The Man Behind the Curtain”, “Through the Looking Glass”, “There’s No Place Like Home”, “Namaste”. These are ALL literary, theological references. Dharma??? “Christian Shepherd”??? Namaste???

        So, you didn’t get it. I see that. But, the path WAS clearly marked. In English.

        I just can’t believe you watched six years of a show and didn’t see this coming. I’m bewildred.

      • thomaschalfant

        July 1, 2010 at 12:44 am

        Frank – perhaps if you looked at Steve’s entire sentence instead of the phrase, it would REEK of its actual meaning.

        The great news is, I don’t need you to go and read any new books to understand his mystical post – just go on back up there and read it again, tiger.

        I love how all you guys defend the story by referencing other works. Oh, Tom, you would have loved those noodles I made – if you’d first gone and picked up ten other ingredients and made a sauce and simmered the noodles in it.

        You ever notice how you don’t need anything but East of Eden to understand and enjoy East of Eden? I guess that’s cause Steinbeck’s so shallow.


      • Steve

        June 30, 2010 at 4:22 pm


        Why are you the one lashing out in anger? Why the insults directed at me?

        I am happy for you that you enjoyed LOST and “got” the ending. You are obviously a much smarter person than I am- you should be a happy person. Especially given the fact that I am an uneducated “back-woods” book hater.

        But for the record: I got it too. I was entertained for 6 seasons, literary references and all. In my opinion, LOST was a show that wandered aimlessly. The plots and subplots had no substance. The finale was mediocre and left me disappointed. I guess my expectations were different than yours…so be it.

        It was a TV show Frank- be happy.

  160. DD Hearn

    June 30, 2010 at 3:03 pm

    Hey, Frank,
    I don’t think you are going to convince anyone on this blog about the merits of Lost. After all, this site is really for those who HATED the ending, though I admire Tom for being willing to post people and even websites that promote a different opinion. If you want to find some fans who are still having a rollicking good time with Lost, go over to .

  161. Ramon

    July 7, 2010 at 1:21 am

    Frank, well… I absolutely DON’T agree with you, as when I was watching the ending, I felt so emotioned and amazed that I didn’t give a damn about the answers to my questions anymore, but to the lifes of the characters I have loved for 6 years. Plus, ever since I watched “Across the sea” it was kinda obvious that the show wasn’t going to answer everything and that some answers were going to be non-sense.
    I actually thought it was a great ending and there’s no way there could be a better one in my opinion.
    But there is one thing I haver to say: even though I don’t agree with you, I have to admit that what you wrote made me laugh the hell out of me; congratulations for the post, but I still have a different point of view.

  162. ramon

    July 7, 2010 at 1:44 am

    Frank, even though I don’t agree with you, I have to admit that I laughed my ass off with your post and I understand why you are mad. Personaly, I loved the ending and I think the reason I didn’t care about the answers was that when I was watching it, I felt so amazed and emotioned that I didn’t give a damn to what the hell was the island actually and stuff… I was just looking forward to the characters I’ve loved and followed for six years being happy, and I got what I wanted.
    So, congratulations for the post, but I still think it was a great finale for the series!

  163. ramon

    July 7, 2010 at 1:47 am

    PS: I didn’t post 2 commentaries on purpose. I actually wrote one but I couldn’t publish it so I wrote a similar one and this time I could, but now I see that the other one was published, so the two of them appear now…

  164. tiffany

    July 7, 2010 at 2:01 am

    I think the ending was brilliant and not revealing all the mysteries is better because maybe a lot more people would be less pleased because they thought the answers didn’t make quite sense. Plus, leaving the finale open lets us do what we’ve always did since the show first started: it let us think the answers to the questions ourselves, continue making theories and writing in blogs trying to solve it all out on our own, but most of all, it made us keep talking about it months after it ended, which was one of its main purposes…

  165. Ann

    July 15, 2010 at 12:04 am

    I’m glad to read that someone else was as disappointed and down right mad about the ending as I was. The last 6 years was an investment in what I thought was amazing television (granted, I thought season 6 stunk but was still running off my adrenaline of hope). I really thought they couldn’t possibly drop the ball at the end since so much was riding on it, including an arsenal of dedicated fans. I hate how wrong I was! I felt used and discarded as a fan. Like, “Hey, thanks for watching but after 5 years of effort we are going to saunter into the finish line because we’ve gotten all we needed out of this project and you can just move on.” True, it’s just a show. But it was a show that purposely affected peoples’ emotions and made them attached to the characters. For them to detach early (which had to be what happened with season 6) it felt like a betrayal. I miss the show and the characters. I miss having that cool sense of “what the heck?’ each week and the slight rush trying to figure out where it all was going. I too felt like the producers were placating us with “Don’t worry, we will fill it all in”, just to leave more holes and deflate the fans who took the journey with them. I own the first 5 seasons and loved every minute. I am debating as to whether to buy 6. Maybe I’ll just enjoy my memories of the good days and try to forget the rest…

    • thomaschalfant

      July 15, 2010 at 12:27 am

      I’ll tell you what, I tried watching it again a few times, and sometimes you catch a clever connection or two, but the whole thing rings hollow to me now. I don’t know what would have to happen to convince me to buy Season Six and I’m just like you, I own the first five.

      To me it was like watching a murder mystery, and then at then end they don’t tell you who did it, and then a bunch of dudes insist that the only way to figure out who did it was to read fifteen additional books.

      Ah well – I kind of like that Persons Unknown, but it tries really, really hard, and it’s also just a mini series.

      Thanks for commenting – your experience with the show sounds like it was exactly like mine and it’s always good to hear from a kindred spirit!

  166. Mia

    August 2, 2010 at 12:52 pm

    Liked your idea of parallel universe and so on. That would have been really cool…
    What the show lacked was a big “WOW” at the end, a moment where everything – all 6 seasons – made sense somehow.

  167. Andrew Wooding

    August 11, 2010 at 5:09 pm

    I am someone who loved the ending of show but I still agree with a lot of what you said. There are too many people out there saying people SHOULD enjoy the ending or they SHOULD NOT enjoy the ending and it makes me sick. Everyone is entitled to their own opinions and I respect yours greatly. You didn’t like the end but you didn’t say everyone should agree with you. Well written, my friend.

    My theory on Damon and Carlton is that they ended the show exactly how they always wanted to. For them the mysteries were a bonus gimmick of the show but because fan communities on the internet are so active at the moment, the mysteries were looked over and analysed intensely and they became the main focus of the show. Lost was labelled a mystery show by me, you and everyone else who watched it. I think they underestimated people’s love for understanding mysteries and in cases such as yours, it came back to bite them in the a** because you felt cheated.

    One thing I’ve noticed since Lost has ended, which makes me mad, is that a lot of people (these “wise” people that you spoke so much about in your blog) say the show was all about the characters…but they’re only saying that because they’ve watched the ending. They didn’t think it was all about the characters before that and yet now they’re looking at others and saying “please, didn’t you realise it was all about the characters.” That does annoy me.

    Anyway, I enjoyed what you had to say and while Lost will always hold a nice place in my heart, I’m not going to tell you you’re wrong for not enjoying the ending. You’re not wrong and this post was one of the most honest things I’ve seen since the finale aired. Congratulations and namaste.

    • DD Hearn

      August 11, 2010 at 7:11 pm

      Good, balanced opinion, Andrew. I was satisfied with the ending (for the most part), though I respect those who were not. Everyone has a right to their opinion. I will say, though, that even before the ending, though I loved the strangeness and mystery of Lost, the thing that kept me coming back was always to see what would happen to the characters. I would tell people that I marveled how the writers were able to make me care about such a large cast of characters. This rarely happens even on a show where there are maybe only three or four characters to follow closely. I cared about almost every one of these people, the “good” and the “bad”. That was no small achievement on the part of the writers, in my opinion.

      Now that I’m rewatching the show for the first time, I can see even more how this show emphasized the character development. Each of these early shows is dedicated to one character, and I think that’s how the writers got us to know so many people on an intimate level. The show, Heroes, jumped all over the place each episode, and I never felt like I really knew anyone on that show other than what abilities they had. But by the end of the first season of Lost I felt I knew all of the main castaways. To me this was good writing. Maybe the writers dropped the ball on some of the plot twists, and I can understand why some people are angry that all the threads weren’t neatly pulled together in the end. But the fact that I miss the characters in the show and would love to see more of them means the writers at least got something right.

      • thomaschalfant

        October 8, 2010 at 11:19 pm

        I definitely think the characters were important the whole time, and in fact that the show could have been all about the characters. I just don’t think you get to decide that Characters are the only category your writing gets judged on.

        That’s what I kept telling people – I didn’t miss the characters. I just wanted the rest, too.

        Again, sorry I missed this comment from so long ago. I really appreciate this kind of discussion so thanks very much.

    • thomaschalfant

      October 8, 2010 at 11:15 pm

      Wow I am really sorry I didn’t notice this comment – this is an old post obviously, and I must have approved it if it’s your first one, so I don’t really have an excuse.

      But I really appreciate it, even though it somehow slipped past me.

      By the exact same token, I am not nearly as angry as I was. Writing that post really took care of most of the anger – especially when it turned out to strike a chord with so many people. I’ve found this link on websites in three or four foreign languages!

      The post up there is like a Picture of Angry – and I love it because a lot of people were really angry, and this appears to really articulate why. Blogging is interesting that way because we don’t have a lot of those snapshots of other historical endings – like Cheers, for instance. I remember it ending, and I was in a bar watching it, and it was really nearly as big a deal. But if I tried typing out how I felt then, it would be different than if I typed it right there in the bar when it was over.

      I’ve heard that the ending was what Abrams had in mind from the beginning, and I think that perhaps they were just given free reign to bridge the gap with mystery and drama. I really don’t have a big crazy problem with those guys – though I heard Lindelof is writing the Star Trek sequel and I can’t help but get a little worried about that. The letter was really what I went on about at the beginning – just getting scolded so venomously for my own disappointment. Kind of snapped – but I guess a lot of people were ready to snap for the same reason.

      Met a lot of people that I still communicate with online, so all in all it was a good thing. Again, sorry for taking so crazy long, and hope to see you around here some more..

  168. LOL

    September 21, 2010 at 3:55 pm


    I just wanted to say this to every Lost fan I have ever met since the show has entered its third season.

    P.S. I stopped watching the show after I noticed the deliberate attempts at creating crisis on the island (Character A notices or learns something wrong/dangerous and waits until the end of the episode to notify others to create a “DUN DUN DUN” moment)

    • thomaschalfant

      September 21, 2010 at 4:19 pm

      No doubt – I wish that I’d known you around season three, and listened to you! Good news is, you win – you didn’t have to bear the unbelievable disappointment of that ending. I had suspicions just like yours, but I believed in them – what can I say? – right to the very end.

  169. oceana

    October 3, 2010 at 11:41 pm

    no offense but your ending made me lol.hydrogen bombs and two dimensions,wtf?so you wanted the whole show to be about a hydrogen bomb?whatever.

    • thomaschalfant

      October 8, 2010 at 11:03 pm

      Um, none taken?

      I’m trying to think of a polite way to tell you that you seem to have found a way to mumble in text form, and that it makes you seem kind of dumb. I can’t think of one.

      Thanks for a really lazy and uninspired comment. The good news about not liking “my ending” is that you didn’t have to wait six years for it.

  170. oceana

    October 11, 2010 at 1:39 pm

    no one would like your ending,and ‘your ending’?how is that even your ending,like you created those characters,and storylines.even a 5th grader could come up with zillion endings to lost,what makes you dumb is you believe that your hydrogen bomb ending bullshit is better than what the writers did,the source is connected to several other EM pockets all around the world,so earth contains EM because the losties detonated a hydrogen bomb? now thats physics.

    • thomaschalfant

      October 11, 2010 at 3:22 pm

      Again – you’re sounding kind of dumb.

      I know it’s not “my ending.” That’s why I put it in quotes. I was quoting you, because you were the one who called it my ending. Read your own comment, genius.

      Also, if you will scroll up there you will find hundreds of people who like that ending, the very ending which you called mine and which you said no one would like. This post was number 40 out of over 300,000 posts on WordPress that day. Lots of people agree with me, and lots of people don’t – you don’t need to get so worked up about it.

      The purpose of describing a potential ending was to address the notion that pulling the plotlines together would have been impossible, and to demonstrate that the Sideways timeline could have easily been something more gratifying than a Pantheistic Pizza Party, which you enjoyed and good for you, but which many, many people found pathetic.

      Beat it.

      • Curtis Bloes

        October 14, 2010 at 1:04 am

        I personally choose to pretend season 6 didn’t happen and substitute this explanation instead. It’s more satisfying. It’s better storytelling.

      • thomaschalfant

        October 14, 2010 at 2:46 am

        Well thanks very much – a guy earlier said that it’s like how Han Solo never escaped from the Carbonite, he’s just going to pretend the rest of the movies didn’t happen..

  171. oceana

    October 14, 2010 at 7:09 pm

    hey you deleted my comment? pathetic

    • JohnMoonlord

      October 14, 2010 at 8:19 pm

      Dude, I loved the ending back then, and I still love it now.

      But that doesn’t prevent me from saying that you’re the most pathetic person on this thread.

      If you want people to appreciate or at least revisite the series finale, you’re really not helping at all.

      Then again, if you’re just a troll in need of attention, well congratulations, you succeeded, and proved to everyone that you’re even more pathetic than expected.

      And for the record, even if I still prefer the original ending, I also do like the one proposed by Thomas here.

  172. Jackel

    January 23, 2011 at 12:13 am

    Even whether things get tied up or not in the Finale, I still dont like the overall story. I feel its kind of flaky. Two Brothers fighting for reasons of one wanting to stay and the other wanting to leave. And 100s of peoples lives are destroyed over there dispute. Truthfully, I think thats kind of dumb.

    • JohnMoonlord

      January 23, 2011 at 2:15 pm

      And yet that’s the kind of story ancient mythologies are made of. Did you know the Trojan War came as a result of a beauty contest?

      The Gods fight over the most trivial of things and mortals pay the price of it.

      I see the whole Jacob vs MIB feud that way.

    • ddhearn

      July 13, 2013 at 6:45 pm

      Jackel, have you ever heard of the Hatfields and the McCoys? Talk about useless feuding, yet it happened in history, and many lives were ruined. And just turn on Jerry Springer to see that people will fight over the most trivial thing. Also, MIB was no longer human…he was turned into a malevolent entity, so I expect that added to the trouble.

  173. momsomniac

    February 22, 2011 at 8:26 pm

    Okay, you probably don’t care at this point, but here is my over-thought analysis of the Lost finale (based upon the assumptopn that there was some sort of plan in play all along):

    I have been told that I am giving the writers too much credit which may be true. I don’t know. But, much like your “Persons Unknown” theory (which is pretty much the only one that works*) it gave me a feeling better than “IS that it????” Damn!”

    *By the way – I don’t know that we ever saw any of our heroes in the town “out of the program.” I suspect the whole thing was intended to be some sort of new “rehabilitation” via computer in a prison setting. Janet just hadn’t come to terms with whatever she’d done yet…

    I wish we’d gotten more. I really enjoyed it.

    • momsomniac

      February 22, 2011 at 8:29 pm

      assumption. sorry – I am typo-rific

    • Tom Chalfant

      February 25, 2011 at 12:15 am

      Oh, I wouldn’t say I’ve lost interest in it, but I’ve definitely lost interest in getting in heated, insulting debates about it, you know? I’m all for talking about it – I just can’t work up the outrage anymore. It’s probably a good thing.

      But I did just go over and read your LOST theory, which I do really like. My main thing was, I think symbolism ought to run parallel to the story, meaning, both are important. So regardless of what symbolized what – and I think you’ve covered that awfully well – if it doesn’t tie up the actual events, I’m tremendously unsatisfied. Like I said, it would be like if an Agatha Christie book ended without telling us who did it, and instead it turned out they all symbolized characters in the Bible or something.

      All I know is every single week, I was going Oh, Man – I must know what THAT was all about. And then at the end it was like, Tom, you big square, it was never about that. And then usually some insults sprinkled on there (Tom needs spoon fed, etc.) So I’m actually totally soured on the show – I mean I tried watching a few old episodes, and I just fundamentally wasn’t interested anymore – what can I say?

      Anyway, sorry it took so long to respond Momsomniac! I’m glad to have you around and commenting, for sure!

  174. Rhonda J. Banford

    April 14, 2011 at 6:03 am

    Thank you so much for venting my rage! Here it is, a year later, and I’m still licking my wounds. Every couple of months or so, it hits me how much I miss LOST. Then it hits me once again, how I was duped. How I spent six years invested in life on the island, sending myself to sleep (or staying awake until all hours of the morning) pondering the mysteries and trying to figure out how they might all come together. It kills me, all those hours I spent trying to come up with the answers I had been promised, when there weren’t any. Now I’m reluctant to invest myself in any show, for fear it will happen again. Those who were satisfied with the ending are so lucky…for ignorance is bliss, I suppose. Those of us who actually did more than just watch the pretty actors and actresses parading around took a real blow to the head. Thanks again for your rant. It’s good to know I’m not alone!

  175. drush76

    January 28, 2012 at 2:44 am

    I’m a fan of “LOST”. I have all six DVD season box sets at home (I purchased them at a discount price). But I must say . . . that finale PISSED ME OFF.

    Oh dear. Was I displaying signs of anger? Perhaps I was. All right. I’ll be a bit cooler about it. The finale was disappointing. Too many plot points – ones I thought were important to the story – were evaded. And I disliked the way certain characters were given shitty fates, because they were unpopular with the fans. Claire is the only character I could see having closure by leaving the island. I don’t see how leaving was that necessary for characters like Kate, Sawyer, Miles, and Richard.

  176. David

    June 2, 2012 at 9:24 pm

    P.S. I found this because I just started re-watching and am enjoying it plenty this time around. (Just finished season 1)

  177. violin maker

    July 7, 2013 at 5:12 pm

    Very good post. I certainly appreciate this site.
    Keep writing!

    • ddhearn

      July 13, 2013 at 6:41 pm

      Having now watched Lost a second time (and actually a third time in the form of Chronologically Lost), I have to say that most of the mysteries WERE answered, perhaps not in the way some would like, but still. There were some things that were left hanging, but the overall story was wrapped up and had closure. The Island was mysterious, and perhaps some things are best left at least partly mysterious. Over explanation can sometimes ruin things. If nothing else, it says something for Lost that three years after it ended, people are still discussing it.

  178. LostSixYearsOfTimeWatchingThis

    July 17, 2013 at 7:53 pm

    Best. Freaking. Review/Rant. Ever.

    Seriously you’ve said everything I wanted to say and more. The ending was like being shoved in the face with manure. Funny thing is, for those of us who didn’t like being shoved in the face with manure, we get judged by those who do like it.

    Worse ending ever. What’s even worse than the ending are the people who act like its a good ending because you have to be ‘smart’ to get it. LOL!!!

  179. Raz

    October 19, 2015 at 10:15 pm

    I enjoyed your post very much, even though I am one of the ones that absolutely loved this show, including the ending. Yes, a few more explicit answers would have been nice. I won’t go into why I loved this show even without these answers, because this would require a lot more writing time than I have. But I would like to point out that not all of us that did enjoy the show think that everyone that didn’t must not have understood it. No, no, they got it – they just didn’t like it. It’s all about perspective. The show rewarded its viewers on an emotional level more than it did on a rational one. Sure, it would have been great if it managed to equally deliver on both fronts, but for some of us, just because it lagged behind on the rational front, it doesn’t mean the entire thing was crap. Just my 2 cents.


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